On Thu 7 Nov at 7:08am Drift away wrote:
British people are far to easily brainwashed and will believe everything Jeremy corbyn says. The man is deluded, can’t answer simple questions is against democracy and will quite frankly ruin our country along with Diane Abbott. The end is nigh
On Thu 7 Nov at 7:43am Sleeveless wrote:
Similarly, another high profile labour candidate has recently said that comments regarding “celebrating the deaths of Tony Blair and Benjamin Netanyahu” were made when she was a naive student.
On Thu 7 Nov at 11:03am Mark wrote:
Daily Mail readers are too easily brainwashed. He never said that about SB. He argued against stripping her of her citizenship and argued that she should return to the UK to face trial. I can't remember a time when he has demanded that 16yo's should vote. It seems unlikely. Perhaps I missed that.
On Thu 7 Nov at 12:56pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Wasn't Begum also under 16 when she actually went to Syria and married her Daesh fighter husband? But I'm sure there's plenty of comparisons to draw between a young girl potentially groomed to join a terrorist death cult and to putting an X on a ballot paper. So long as we can blame or use it against Corbyn we should just rehash rubbish, disingenuous right wing talking points.
On Thu 7 Nov at 10:52pm Mark wrote:
It's like shooting ducks in a barrel wouldn't you say, Greensleeves.
On Fri 8 Nov at 9:27am Sleeveless wrote:
With respect to the original post, I don’t think anyone need worry about Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbott.
On Sat 9 Nov at 2:25pm Blatant Liar wrote:
If you look on FB you’ll see Knowall Fister is demanding that everyone votes LD.…
On Sun 10 Nov at 9:15pm Phfellow wrote:
My name is Jeremy Corbyn and I would like to apply for the role as Prime Minister of the UK, please see attached my CV.
Education Primary: Castle House School, an independent preparatory school near Newport, Shropshire.
Education Secondary: Adams' Grammar School Newport two A-Levels, at grade E, the lowest-possible passing grade
Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute's silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber's co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn't support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his "friends".
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas "serious and hard-working".
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas' "spirit of resistance".
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a "tragedy".
Wouldn't sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of "friendship" with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists "obscene".
Boasted about "opposing anti-terror legislation".
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are "strange".
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a "very good friend".
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign - marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make "value judgements" about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised "internationalism and solidarity" of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb UT-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the "case for Iran" at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should "have tea with the Queen".
Attended 'Meet the Resistance' event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian "mujahideen".
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked "anti-terror hysteria" while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied "hope and opportunity".
Said 9/11 was "manipulated" to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 "comrades".
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on "austerity".
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
Hobbies interests: I like to surround myself with socially inept people and have tried to avoid mixing with anyone of any intellectual gravitas.
Personal statement: I am sure I would be a very good PM for Britain, firstly by instituting a Government of perpetuity, that way we do not need to spend any more money on silly elections. I would then hand over complete control of the UK firstly to the EU and then as that develops within ten years a World Government overseen by the UN. The UN as you will be pleased to know, has 164 members, of these 20 are classified as fully democratic (Democracy Index), 55 are regarded as flawed democracies, with the remainder not being regarded as democratic. So we should be in safe hands!! Finally, all of my socialist friends and I will live a life of luxury while we rape and pillage the lifestyles of the wealthy who worked for their money and created thousands of jobs for the economy.
Vote Corbyn, you know it makes sense !
On Mon 11 Nov at 7:58am Green Sleeves wrote:
Who needs context when you can blissfully lead your life through daily mail and daily express sensationalist headlines (and often lies)! ;-)
On Mon 11 Nov at 12:03pm Sleeveless wrote:
From The Guardian (regarding Corbyn’s attendance at a Black September memorial service “I was present at that wreath-laying, I don’t think I was actually involved in it.”
Well it made me chuckle.
On Mon 11 Nov at 1:04pm Dave wrote:
Boris Johnson lies a lot
I'd much rather see Jeremy Corbyn as PM than someone leading a party bankrolled by manipulative Russian oligarchs
On Mon 11 Nov at 1:05pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Yea it's good to chuckle at those respecting the deaths of almost 50 Palestinians bombed by Israeli military, many civilians, and try to make cynical political gain from it.
This is the issue with modern political discourse. If you've made up your mind about someone, there is little need or motive for context or even truth. You just carry on believing what you want to believe and not holding your own political parties, policies and politicians to the same standard. Total lack of critical thinking from the likes of sleeveless et al. But these are the types who have "just about had enough of experts".
On Mon 11 Nov at 1:07pm Dave wrote:
Boris Johnson has so far
Misled the EU
Misled the Queen
What a guy!
On Mon 11 Nov at 1:21pm Sleeveless wrote:
Are you not a Guardian reader, Greensleeves? The account of how Corbyn was present at the ceremony in respect of 4 members of Black September is available.
On Mon 11 Nov at 1:47pm Green Sleeves wrote:
He and Labour confirmed the last time the media and Tories felt it was relevant a distraction), that they were there as a mark of respect for those that lost their lives in 1985 and not those responsible for the Munich killings.
It's election time, the old, well-worn anti-corbyn stories come back into the narrative very conveniently.
On Mon 11 Nov at 2:38pm Sleeveless wrote:
Maybe you could help me then Greensleeves and point me to which part of the news media I can rely on? You obviously source your vast unbiased knowledge from somewhere.
On Mon 11 Nov at 11:02pm Tom Pain wrote:
Well I'll try a third time, sleeveless. I've got to agree with greenie . The news media is not there to help you, just to spin you in the direction they favour. Believe half you see and nothing you're told.
On Tue 12 Nov at 7:36am nancy wrote:
Tory way. When you are short of money you cut costs.
Labour way. When you are short of money you carry on spending.
Which makes more sense?
On Tue 12 Nov at 8:32am Nevillman wrote:
The Labour way Nancy. That way you simulate the economy to get future growth. The government is mainly borrowing from taxpayers anyway. Maybe tax should be higher. Is that what you are suggesting?
On Tue 12 Nov at 10:25am nancy wrote:
Let's say we both want to go out for a drink tonight but neither of us has any money. I would stay home until I get paid whereas you would borrow money on the off chance you may be able to pay it back in the future.
On Tue 12 Nov at 10:42am Nevillman wrote:
Thatcher started this housekeeping analogy. Countries are not like households. In the situation you describe it would be more accurate to say that I borrow money to invest or spend to create more money that I can use to buy a drink with.
On Tue 12 Nov at 8:01pm Tom Pain wrote:
Hmm..yeess, next time I bump into Jo I'll recommend you as a possible chancellor of the exchequer. Have you been taking lessons from Mark Carney? If you don't mind, I'll try that one out on the wife the next time I head off to the Dog and Ferret.
On Wed 13 Nov at 7:02am Green Sleeves wrote:
Nevillman is correct, it's absurd and economically illiterate to compare an individual or household budget with how a countries economy operates. If we cut our spending and expenses as a household, our income/salary remains the same as income and expenditure are broadly independent from each other. However when a country cuts spending, income falls.
On Wed 13 Nov at 8:08am nancy wrote:
Oh I see. All investments make money and the EU can do no wrong. Now I understand.
On Wed 13 Nov at 8:10am Nevillman wrote:
No Nancy. You don't see.
On Mon 18 Nov at 6:58pm Tom Pain wrote:
I can't see it either! If all the households cut spending then their incomes would fall because their incomes depend on selling goods and services that would be in less demand. I find the economic illiteracy boot to be on the other foot. On the subject of literacy may I suggest that someone who writes "countries economy" should bear in mind the proverb about glasshouses and stones.
On Tue 19 Nov at 11:56am Green Sleeves wrote:
You're being obtuse. We weren't talking about ALL households (and you probably knew that already). We were talking about how when some economic dunderheads attempt to compare an individual persons household budget compared with that of the world's 6 largest economy (when attempting to argue for shrinking the state). Expenses and income are simply not anywhere nearly as intertwined. One could cut down on many expenses in their outgoings and yet their income would remain the same. This just isn't the same in a national budget.
On Thu 21 Nov at 5:49pm Tom Pain wrote:
Your penultimate sentence is so grammatically compromised it is impossible to understand. As to your use of the term dunderhead, allow me to refer you to my previous mention of stones and glasshouses.
On Thu 21 Nov at 8:17pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Grammatical attacks, oh drat. You got me.
I have re-read that sentence that you're struggling to comprehend. It certainly could be better articulated and worded, but it still makes sense. Reducing your household budget expenses isn't likely to reduce your salary because it's independent from each other.