On 2 Nov 2017 at 10:37am The Future Beckons wrote:
The influx of wealthier geographically-mobile people into Lewes continues to raise house prices and so forces the poorer born-and-bred working class to move out and look for homes in less expensive areas.
In the main bonfire is a working class event so the likely result will be that Lewes bonfire becomes the preserve of people who live outside of the town.
How long then before bonfire is seen as an invading force and banned as a nuisance? Another decade?
On 2 Nov 2017 at 10:55am Feline wrote:
I'm assuming this is a wind up, but in case it isn't, I'm a DFL and I came to live in Lewes because I love the town and that includes Bonfire. If you don't like it don't live here.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 11:18am Silly Feline wrote:
Why do you think the OP doesn't like bonfire?
On 2 Nov 2017 at 11:46am Ron wrote:
Like a typical classroom or shop floor, 90% of members cause no trouble. Its the other 10% who cause all the trouble and spoil the reputation of Bonfire.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 12:24pm Hot lips wrote:
Cobblers. Is Isfield full of working class? Bodiam? Etc etc
On 2 Nov 2017 at 12:25pm Tinkler wrote:
If my children were conceived and grew up in Lewes are they still DFLs because their parents have only lived here for 15 years?
On 2 Nov 2017 at 12:38pm Ghost of Maggie wrote:
There is no working class. Only a property owning democracy. Thanks to me. So just rejoice and be thankful.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 3:19pm Red Herring wrote:
Avoiding the all-too-predictable distraction of the DFL issue, which is nothing to do with this whatsoever, it will be lucky to last in its current form for another ten years.
All you need to do is to look at the faces of out-of-town guests who have never seen it before – in my experience, they are just unable to believe what they are seeing.
I love bonfire, but all it needs in one serious accident – and who could confidently say that this will never happen – didn’t someone get brain damage before? – then the social media will grind into action. People who have nothing to do with Lewes whatsoever will delight in being outraged, The Mail will get hold of it, snowflake students will decide it’s not a “safe place”….and it’s game over.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 3:51pm MissyE wrote:
Red Herring you seem to be saying that in the past there have been serious injuries sustained at Lewes Bonfire which haven't, in my experience, lead to a shut down or "game over" as you say . So why are so sure that this will be bound to be the end if there was another serious injury ? There has always been an element of danger to Bonfire and that is why huge crowds wish to attend ! The people who come to watch need to accept some responsibility for their own safety.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 4:28pm Erp wrote:
Entryism and convergence will eventually force the society's to conform. Pressure from business sponsorship usually works.
Hope not hate are now involved so expect ramping up of pressure,doxxing and other tactics.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 4:31pm Erm wrote:
Doubt it, there is no business sponsorship.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 4:34pm Jeff wrote:
For an organisation (Diversity Lewes) who's stated aims are to unite communities they've failed miserably and have created the most divisive situation I have ever known in our town.
They should be ashamed to have set so many people against each other. The damage to our community is a very sad result and will be long lasting legacy of some pretty short sighted individuals.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 4:41pm the people wrote:
Lewes Bonfire will endure going forward as it is at the heart of what the community stands for. If you don't understand that you need to put-up, shut-up or just leave.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 5:07pm + wrote:
"Endure going forward"?
On 2 Nov 2017 at 5:08pm Green herring wrote:
Red Herring, when I march through the High Street on Bonfire Night what I see on the faces of the "out-of-town guests who have never seen it before" is mostly excitment and unbelieving delight.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 5:13pm Billy wrote:
It would be interesting to know how much the Insurance premium is for each society. They are parading in public streets - Just one mistake or act of folly by one of their members and.....
On 2 Nov 2017 at 5:56pm Hmm... wrote:
@Jeff. It was Mick Symes that made a mess of it, by being duplicitous, two-faced and informing the media. He's made a real mess of things. And now the Zulus have retracted their comments supporting Borough and won't be attending bonfire. He even screwed that up. You couldn't make it up!
On 2 Nov 2017 at 6:43pm Premium wrote:
@billy it's quite a substantial amount
On 2 Nov 2017 at 7:02pm One of that lot wrote:
It feels like the Lewes glitterati and their Btn chums are wishing to ethnically cleanse a working strand of society!
Bonfire has always been a form of expression against authority!!!
On 2 Nov 2017 at 8:54pm Earl of Lewess wrote:
Red Herring has a point. Social media has created a hysterical, kangaroo court of virtue signalling. Sometimes it's done a useful job of exposing bigotry and corruption, but on many other occasions it's distorted the truth or encouraged obsessions with fashionable issues, like transgender toilets, while ignoring the broader picture.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 11:08pm The Greek wrote:
Many people in Lewes Bonfire don't actually live in Lewes, house prices being one of the main reasons. But it won't die.
On 2 Nov 2017 at 11:43pm Jackie Valliano wrote:
Who's the funny guy haha what a ridiculous thing to say... It started with riots, and if the try to end it, well, it will reignite from riots!!
On 3 Nov 2017 at 1:32pm Zeb wrote:
I think the point the OP is making is that once almost none of the people that take part in Lewes bonfire actually live in Lewes (as opposed to just some of them) aren't Lewes residents a likely to turn round to say 'enough is enough' you lot go and make your noisy mess in the countryside, and not in otherwise quiet and gentile town.
On 3 Nov 2017 at 1:47pm Tom Pain wrote:
Of course they'll get rid of bonfire or turn it into some fictitious world togetherness day. The worms of political correctness are already eyeing it's cadaver."Diversity" is already diluting real diversity in it's grey water. If Weinstein was Scottish would it be anti Caledonian to criticize his behaviour? Anyone seen a white Zulu? The fact that this nonsense is taken seriously indicates that reality is now taking second place paranoid delusions of victimhood.