On Tue 5 Oct at 9:27pm Basil wrote:
... if my post appears today.
On Wed 6 Oct at 12:54pm Nevillman wrote:
While you're on basil, why not tell us how happy you are with brexit and how the neo liberals are on the run.
On Wed 6 Oct at 9:57pm Tom Pain wrote:
Those neo-libs as the New Riders of the Covid Surge are having a very good run.(or should that have been Raiders) All the billionaires are increasing their wealth like never before. Its very peculiar how the top 1% manage to do so well when the general economy takes a dive. Don't speculate why that should be, its not polite and you know what you would be called and it wont be polite!
On Thu 7 Oct at 11:20am Basil wrote:
Nevillman - Very happy that we've left the protectionist EU superstate project. I went to the dentist yesterday and had a painful tooth extracted. Yes, I'm one tooth down but I'm pleased to be rid of the source of the pain.
On Thu 7 Oct at 3:22pm Parent wrote:
It is far easier to fool somebody than to convince them they have been fooled. (Paraphrased, from Mark Twain)
On Thu 7 Oct at 5:12pm Nevillman wrote:
You are right Tom. The neo liberals have free rein without the added protection of the EU competition policy. Don't forget basil it was the EU that saw off ttip. You will see what true neo liberalism looks like when we have us trade agreements. Looking at the world with some knowledge of economics, politics, history and geography then I truly think of decision to leave the EU looks more foolish by the day but I have no wish to go through the old arguments again and accept that enough of my compatriots were fooled that the leavers won. I shall however remain a remainder, remowner and rejoiner until i see some evidence beyond an irrational fear of an EU superstate project to convince me.
The reality is that basil, Tom and nevillman will be long gone before this plays out so I have nothing further to add on the matter unless specifically goaded. I was only seeing if you had any remorse yet basil but I am not surprised. I think parent sums that up well.
On Fri 8 Oct at 9:58am Tom Pain wrote:
I don't think it's a matter of being fooled, as with all political choices, one picks the least worse. Its all just a tax farming operation. The party system ensures that all candidates are "safe hands" and voting- a charade.Let's face it, the government is just stakeholder in the global public- private partnership network.
On Tue 12 Oct at 2:27pm Nevillman wrote:
You might have a point about general elections Tom but that is a different topic and in 2016 there was a straight choice between in or out of the EU. In my opinion many of the electorate were fooled by all manner of methods. It is my belief that as time passes .more people will realise they have been fooled. I don't expect you or basil will ever come to that realisation for obvious reasons.
On Tue 12 Oct at 6:41pm Tom Pain wrote:
We're in a world system. The UK and the EU, even Russia and China. The globalised financial system is doing away with national borders bit by bit. They've stated it many times.
On Fri 15 Oct at 6:05pm Nevillman wrote:
Another interesting topic Tom that I would be happy to respond to in its own thread. I'm interested to know your view on the topic of this thread.. Were many people fooled into voting leave in the referendum?
On Sat 16 Oct at 8:32pm Tom Pain wrote:
It all depends on what propaganda the foolees (!) Believed. Both sides pushed exaggerated claims to win the vote. One always notices the other side's distortions but not usually one's own. What I was saying was that it made no difference whether or not we stayed or remained, it's just a distraction from the big issue, which is the globalisation of real power. Another thing no one has commented on is the intention to flouridate our water. The focus has been on poor peoples teeth! And the government's hypocritical concern for them. Whereas the important issue is the effect flouride has on the mind- very bad.
On Mon 18 Oct at 6:23pm Nevillman wrote:
You say that it makes no difference whether we stayed or remained but consider the many people who have already been affected including people who would like to spend winter abroad or the young people of UK and EU who cannot now experience life and working abroad for a while or longer. Also people who needed some of the goods that were not delivered or need a care worker or the hospitality business unable to open because of lack of staff. You may have no sympathy for any of these people but they and many others do feel there was a difference.
As far as the UK or England, after a possible split in the Union, surviving in an increasingly globalised economic world then we cannot know for sure but personally I would feel considerably happier if we were closely allied to one of the main economic players that is the EU.
On Mon 18 Oct at 9:03pm Tom Pain wrote:
Nearly half the care workers come from abroad, so I don't know what you mean by that comment. As far as going abroad is concerned, have you not noticed the lack of aircraft in the sky? Is that the result of brexit? Ive just discovered that payments of four million euros appear in easythe bank account of a EU health commissioner responsible fot the first vaccine contracts. Just think how much more it would have cost big pharma if every country had to be financially encouraged in like manner. Perhaps it wouldn't have been so easy to have turned seasonal flu into a pantodemic without the monolithic EU. Another thing I've just seen is the Canadian PM talking about another three years of covid jab contracts; how long is this swindle planned to go on? Forever if we let it and don't stop being compliant.
On Tue 19 Oct at 12:10pm Green Sleeves wrote:
You're wasting your breath nevillman. TP red pilled a long time ago. He wasnt able to address your points directly so as usual goes off into his "plandemic", big-pharma, global financial swindle routine.
I wish more people would post on this forum other than TP. His appeal is very limited before you realise hes on a short loop. Perhaps everyone else has died of the gene therapy vaccines. I must confess im feeling a little faint....
On Tue 19 Oct at 12:16pm Green Sleeves wrote:
I miss HAMID BARR! Remember that lunatic on this forum, and his many alt-accounts? He was somewhat of an entertaining troll. Come back you unstable fool!
On Tue 19 Oct at 3:25pm Tom Pain wrote:
It's a good thing you're on the forum telling everybody what to think, viridian viper. Your comment on Hamid is absolutely priceless- vituperative, insulting and lacking any mental balance, with a breathtaking lack of self reflection, you call him a lunatic troll !!! Perhaps you're a superb, self deprecating ironist, or perhaps not.
On Tue 19 Oct at 3:45pm Green Sleeves wrote:
I can laugh at myself and be self-deprecating, but Hamid Barr will always be cuckoo for cocoa puffs and a keyboard thug.
Perhaps I am a troll, but my only targets are trolls and bullies. I call it a community service.
On Tue 19 Oct at 8:13pm Nevillman wrote:
I agree that we need more contributors green. I'm afraid that like you I have had enough of Tom's inability to read, understand or in any real way respond to any posts.
On Wed 20 Oct at 11:53am Tom Pain wrote:
If you look nev, 18 oct.... A r e p l y, well I never! Im sure you won't find similar views in The Retardian but it's my opinion. As for the un- verdant one: the scary thing is - you probably believe it! Impere Hypocritico.
On Wed 20 Oct at 12:18pm Green Sleeves wrote:
LOL, what a dork.
On Wed 20 Oct at 12:56pm Nevillman wrote:
Classic reply Tom. No evidence of having read my post, understood it or made any attempt to respond to it. Didn't I make the point that a lot of our care workers come from the EU so we are short of them? You are right green. I am wasting my time. Bye Tom.
On Tue 26 Oct at 4:27pm Woman in Whitecoat wrote:
Very dull....are you all like this in real life?
On Wed 27 Oct at 9:02pm Tom Pain wrote:
No! We're a vibrant , resilient posse of progressives when we're out on the town with our masks and visors on. We set CO2 traps for evil molecules and protest about the weather like true brits. Come to our demo in the precinct on Saturday, we're circulating a petition to ban bonfires, torches, fireworks, sexist guy burning and demanding gender neutral outfits in the procession. It'll be really empowering, wear a grey coat tho', or you might be mistaken for a race supremacist. See you there, I'll be wearing full hazmat with a green carnation in my button hole.
On Wed 27 Oct at 10:12pm Nevillman wrote:
Good for you Tom. I am this dull woman in white coat. What exactly is your point?
On Fri 29 Oct at 5:12pm Tom Pain wrote:
Obviously too fine a point for some.
On Sun 31 Oct at 3:13pm Cedric wrote:
With the petition that you intend to promote, forget the full hazmat as I feel a suit of armour would be more In keeping with the agenda you have in mind.
On Mon 1 Nov at 1:45pm Tom Pain wrote:
I got my hazmat gear from an irony-monger, so it's armour plated. It looks as if Mr. D and Fr. Hackett might need one too!