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Footballer& Poppies

On 3 Nov 2016 at 10:01am Jonny wrote:
Interesting this footballers/poppies story. I wonder if perversely, the players are being told they HAVE to wear the poppies by their respective FA's. It took Rooney years just to sing the national anthem before games.
On 3 Nov 2016 at 10:20am Pedro wrote:
Why is singing the national anthem still a big deal in the 21st century? I personally never sing it, because a) I don't believe in god, b) don't believe in the queen (royal family) and c) find the whole concept of patriotism to be a bit primitive, illogical and over-sentimental. So I'm not sure how authentic it would be for me to sing about someone I don't believe in, saving someone who I don't care for.

I understand that one might want to mark their respects to those that have died in various wars (and this would apply to victim combatants and civilians on all sides). So they should have the right to wear a poppy should they choose to.

I guess Nationalism has recently had a boost and is bolder than before, so this is probably why its seems more relevant today, especially since certain parts of the media thrive off nationalism.
On 3 Nov 2016 at 10:26am The Greek wrote:
The national anthem is a dirge that isn't representative of our country. Time for a change. I again feel disingenuous for singing it for the above reasons.
On 3 Nov 2016 at 10:33am Pedro wrote:
@ The Greek, absolutely, and you're right that the tune itself is rather depressing and plodding, even if the words were amended to be more representative. The Italian, French and Russian National anthems are a lot more interesting as pieces of music (disregarding the lyrics).

The Queen herself must be so utterly bored of it by now as well, and she has the maximum exposure to it. No wonder she looks so miserable. (by the way, I've not personal gripes with Queen Elizabeth, she seems ok as far as monarchs go).
On 3 Nov 2016 at 11:54am Cecil wrote:
Second verse of "I vow to thee my country".
Cut out all the violent stuff in the first verse.
Sing it and own it.
On 3 Nov 2016 at 12:07pm Clifford wrote:
Cecil - No, because it is religious and not all of us are. Nice tune by Holst though.
On 3 Nov 2016 at 2:43pm Carnet tornway hilden wrote:
Wear your poppies with pride !

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