On 20 Oct 2019 at 11:34am Mark wrote:
Make a trip to Germany. You only need to spend a few days there to start to feel that the innovations required are actually achievable. My German brother-in-law drives an all electric BMW i3. He charges it using the power from the solar panels on his roof. He took me for a ride in it. It has an amazing turn of speed. It needs almost no servicing. It cost him no more than a high-spec VW Golf. Public transport is superb over there. Every road has a safe bicycle path running alongside it.
Where there's a will there's a way. The will doesn't exist in the Anglo Saxon world - the vested interests are too strong. And it's sad to see the media undermining a progressive movement like ER by cherry-picking what they can use against them. A bloke on a train roof - the whole environmental crisis distilled down to that.
On 20 Oct 2019 at 11:42am David Stanley wrote:
Long term nuclear is ideal for base load and much less destructive than the mining involved in metals for solar panels and batteries which is currently causing wars nobody cares about apparently.
Unfortunately their is so much expensive propaganda against it I can't see it happening.
On 20 Oct 2019 at 11:34pm Tom Pain wrote:
Vested interests, yes Mark. The German banking system is not centralised like ours. They have many small independent banks that lend to small and medium-sized businesses that manufacture g.d.p. generating products. Unfortunately the ECB is "rectifying" the situation according to Richard Werner who's videos are extremely edifying. The evidence of many crumbling nuclear waste containers discovered by fishermen in the seas around Britain doesn't leave me with a feeling of confidence as to the responsibility of the nuclear industry, David.
On 21 Oct 2019 at 12:28pm Local99 wrote:
A tip – if you want to make a load of money, get into the business of electric car battery replacement. Give a couple of years, and you'll be rolling in it...
On 21 Oct 2019 at 1:12pm David Stanley wrote:
Drilling for oil has environmental costs but look at the devastation being wrought by open mining (literally chopping through hills) and the poisonous runoff in China where the heavy metals required for battery production are found. That cute electric car is causing massive destruction despite it's daily use being low carbon. Then there is the totally unplanned for disposal of highly toxic used batteries and panels.
On 21 Oct 2019 at 8:45pm Tom Pain wrote:
How about vegetable based plastic, if it exists, cars with bio fuel engines? Ah but then there'd be no land for growing food, damn it and the drivers would be so high from the hemp fumes they'd be crashing all the time and sitting by the roadside thinking-- how come Greenland was green before the new green deal? Was London under water in those days, did they have polar bears and would the United Nations put a stop to it's infernal meddling, no one voted for it anyway.
On 23 Oct 2019 at 12:44pm Nevillman wrote:
Am I the only one who struggles to understand what Tom pain is trying to say? Is it really sophisticated trolling or the incoherent thoughts of a rambling moron. I would love to try to argue on here point by point but apart from the odd statement, it is really impossible to work out what his main point is.
On 23 Oct 2019 at 6:21pm Green Sleeves wrote:
@nevillman, he seems mainly to get giddy over discussing various conspiracy theories. Oh, and if he refers to me as "Greenie" one more time, I may actually become physically aggressive for the first time in my life
On 23 Oct 2019 at 11:27pm Tom Pain wrote:
Oh no greenie, your patrician conceit knows no bounds. I make a gesture of camaraderie on the absurdity of reefer madness and you want to get violent about me using a diminutive of your moniker! So to Nev, forgive me, I find it difficult to remain serious for too long with people who chuck terms like --rambling moron and conspiracy theorist around whilst acting the innocent.
On 24 Oct 2019 at 11:39am Nevillman wrote:
Thank you for helping me to clear up my query about what you are Tom. I am happy to see that you are not a sophisticated troll.
On 24 Oct 2019 at 6:22pm Green Sleeves wrote:
Oh no....he called me "Greenie" again, i'm so enraged, in a camp way.