On 26 Aug 2009 at 9:38am Taff wrote:
I see our 'great provider' of many things has decided to charge for tyre air!
I suppose thats inflation for you.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 9:43am Mystic Mog wrote:
Spongey, your learned comments please.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 9:48am spongebob wrote:
Comments on what exactly ? If you don't like Mog, blow the tyres up with your gob, you seem to have plenty of hot air.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 10:32am Rosemary wrote:
I expect you could blow up yours with your arse
On 26 Aug 2009 at 11:40am Decent Citizen wrote:
Cos he usually talks out of it!
On 26 Aug 2009 at 12:05pm Mystic Mog wrote:
Spongebob I was hoping that since you hold Tesco in such high regard you may have expresed disapointment regarding the charges. Or perhaps given us the inside track as to why such a benevolent company would wish to begin charging. I had not expected such a uncouth post from someone as eminent as yourself.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 12:11pm Spongebob wrote:
It's an air machine for **** sake. Get over it and move on. Bloody thing hardly ever works anyway.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 12:21pm Rozzer wrote:
Of course they're charging for air - when their profits are threatened 'every little helps'. I hope Lady Porter still gets her share.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 12:30pm George Doors wrote:
SB calm down it's only your favourite shop now carging for a safety critical instrument that (in your words) 'hardly ever works anyway'.
Well at least they sell cheap big pants.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 12:32pm Rozzer wrote:
George - what are the scores?
On 26 Aug 2009 at 12:34pm Lets Do Lunch! wrote:
Charging for air? Reminds me of a wonderful play I saw years ago called "Gasping".
On 26 Aug 2009 at 2:46pm Interested. wrote:
Hi Spongebob. I know someone has asked you this before but are you related to Chav?
On 26 Aug 2009 at 3:15pm Old Ted wrote:
Chav is Spongebob's son but nobody knows who the mother is, or whether there was one. He may have been a bargain offer at tesco.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 4:07pm Spongebob wrote:
I was shot against the wall and dried in the sun
On 26 Aug 2009 at 5:50pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
They're probably using the income from the air machine to subsidise the price of Spongenob's pants.
I was going to fill up with diesel there tomorrow, but I'll give Sainsbury's my custom instead.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 6:29pm Spongebob wrote:
You see, you lot think that these anti tescos comments are going to get me running for a box of Kleenex.
Personally, i don't give a flying f**k whether it's Tescos, Lidls, Sainsburys, The Pound Shop or some local pikey.
What i care about is being given the choice in this town to be able to choose whether i shop at a place that sells stuff that people with more disposable income than they know what to do with go to, or somewhere that the more common people like myself can go.
You get the feeling that the "antis" tend to be against a Tescos expansion because [said in the best upper class voice] "it's not in keeping with the town's image"
On 26 Aug 2009 at 6:36pm Mystic Mog wrote:
I agree with your 3rd paragraph and it is what I have said consistantly in previous posts.
However I would like those shops to be it in the centre of town and not via an expanded Tesco that will hasten the decline of ordinary shops in the town centre. If Tesco expand we will get more lifestyle shops in the town centre.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 6:49pm Spongebob wrote:
But can you actually see these shops (Primark, Peacocks etc) being attracted to this town with its reputation for being so far up itself ?
I can't see any of the "cheap" shops queueing up to come into Lewes and even if they were, Mr Quim and his chamber of commerce would be looking down their fat, pompous noses at them with a recommendation to refuse them.
Until then.....it's Tescos all the way for me
On 26 Aug 2009 at 8:09pm Decent Citizen wrote:
I would be right there with them spognob. No I am not rich, or a shop owner, just someone with the savvy to know that an historic town like Lewes needs to stay untouched by the crap you, and people like you would like to turn it into. MOVE.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 8:21pm Old Ted wrote:
You're right there Decent. Spongey and his like would probably like to see the Downs built on too.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 9:30pm My God! wrote:
Some of you are so far up your own arses!!!
I'm guessing like me Spongebob was probably born here, oh and I was was brought up on a council estate, if that matters. I love this town and am more than happy for Tesco to expand! Why don't you move!!!!!
On 26 Aug 2009 at 9:48pm Decent Citizen wrote:
I too was born here, as my family before me, and those before them. I too am a council tenant(although what difference that makes I do not know)perhaps I just took in more at school!Why would anyone, in their right mind, want Lewes to be like any other town? I have said many times before,Lewes in unique,lets keep it that way.Twelve minutes on a train(leave the car behind)you have all the tat you need.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 10:10pm Spongebob wrote:
But, Indecent citizen, the high street can remain unique to all the weirdos like your good self who want to continue buying crap. All that 50% of the population is asking is for somewhere to shop where you don't have to take a second mortgage out for and don't have to drive.
just remember, it's all about choice
On 26 Aug 2009 at 10:11pm My God! wrote:
How can you call yourself a 'Decent citizen' when you want to send people out of town, you can't have taken too much in at school love or you would realise that we really need to be bringing people in to town before it actually dies!
Don't worry, you just keep buying from the Twine shops and other useless places we have and that'll keep it all going! The council estate reference is because I'm really bored about the 'people like you' tag that keeps coming up! Just have a look at the snotty posts every time Tesco's is mentioned.
I am actually bored with saying that every time I go to Tesco I walk in to town and am so fed up with coming away with nothing as the shops are completely useless!!How many times do we have to go over it!
On 26 Aug 2009 at 10:14pm nellie marlan wrote:
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO CHANGE LEWES its lovely to go round the shops and enjoy the places of interest, you know whats going to happen if Tescos expanse all the little shops will close and be boarded up. The town will have Tumbleweed rolling along the streets it will be come uncared for. the village as you know it will be no more go to outer places to shop get your goods on line if you are able to use this site you must have a PC do not spoil a pretty little market town there are just a few left its History think on
On 26 Aug 2009 at 10:16pm My God! wrote:
Why are you all so stupid, you must be doing social studies courses or something! Do you really think that prettiness and nothing shops will keep this town going!
On 26 Aug 2009 at 10:56pm Interested wrote:
A few years ago we had a really nice fresh bread shop (now closed) Whittingtons to buy papers,etc (now closed) and a 'corner shop' (also closed) in Western Road.
I spoke to my Mum earlier tonoght and was moaning that they had all shut and she blamed the supermarkets.Is she right?
On 26 Aug 2009 at 11:12pm Geoff wrote:
Its so terrible to see that poor Tesco's is now so strapped for cash that it has to withdraw one of its warm hearted Lewes friendly benefits, that contributed to the town, and encouraged people to drop by Tescos, and visit the rest of the town whilst they were here. The other shops should club together and help it out, maybe they could all try and not compete with Tesco's, and not aggressively undercut its prices, after all, its what Tesco's would do if it was an overdominant monopoly, and our shops were struggling. I didn't realise that Tesco's finances werein such a terrible staight.
On 26 Aug 2009 at 11:13pm Decent Citizen wrote:
She certainly is, interested.Nellie Martin there are many more people like us.Good on you. Unfortunately there are those who are too lazy or perhaps not interested in the history of this lovely market town.Lets hope the powers that be, do not bow to the wishes of the few who would see this town turned into a nondescript town like others have. I and many other like minded people will fight to keep it as lovely as it is.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 12:14am Apple wrote:
This is the sound of a recession, what it actually sounds like. Listen.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 8:33am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
I think it very unlikely that the likes of Primark would be interested in opening a shop in a town as small as Lewes. Selling cheap is only viable in the long term when you have a large volume of sales, a shop in Lewes selling only clothes would never get that sort of volume.
Milton Keynes, not renowned for being posh (in fact quite the opposite) won't have Primark in the shopping centre because it lowers the tone! Talk about ideas above your station.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 9:55am Interested wrote:
I saw on the news last week that Poundland are opening new shops all over the country.This is one business who are actually surviving this recession and making money.I know a few of you think they sell tat,but Poundland is one who doesn't.
They would be competition for our 2 supermarkets as they sell food and cosmetics and shampoos,washing powder,toilet rolls etc.Good quality items for £1.
I have written to Poundland and told them that Woolies was vacant and they should consider taking it over.I will update when/if they answer.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 11:14am jonnyboy wrote:
Rather pay 20p for air at Tesco than 40p at Malling Street.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 12:54pm Old Ted wrote:
If I could I'd leave the air running at Tescos so it ran into the...er.... air.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 6:30pm Ed Can Do wrote:
Ho wmany times can you have the same, pointless circular discussion?
1) A mention of Tesco
2) A reference to Spongebob
3) A complaint about how Tesco enlarging will kill all the shops in the town centre
4) People say that actually Tesco sell completely different stuff to all the shops in the town and it'd be nice to have some shops that actually sell stuff people want to buy
5) Same people get told to p1ss off to Uckfield
6) Accusations of snobbery
7) A reference to Spongebob
8) A complaint about how Tesco enlarging will kill all the shops in the town centre...
It's getting a bit dull frankly. I really don't see why people don't realise that so long as they continue buying organic dusters and ornamental antique clothes pegs the "Threatened" shops in town will survive, no matter how big Tesco gets. There's an underlying current of snobbery here that suggests that the majority of shoppers are mindless automatons who are hypnotised by Tesco ads and can't help but spend all their money there regardless of other options.
People aren't that stupid. Everyone makes a concious decision where to buy their stuff and what the want to buy. I buy my meat and fish in Riverside, pretty much all my other food in Tesco because it's cheap and we lack a decent greengrocer in town. I rarely shop in the other shops in town because very few of them sell anything I'd ever want to buy and those that do are predominantly chains just like Tesco and are normally undercut by internet shops anyway.
In all the back and forth about we've had here, not once has anyone said exactly which shops they think will close down if Tesco gets any bigger. I agree that it's nice to have a few diverse independent shops in town but it'd be nicer to have a few independent shops that sold stuff people want to buy regularly rather than 25 antique shops and a few over-priced cafes. Those shops that do cater to the local market do well and have for the most part been there for ages, despite Tesco being in town.
On 27 Aug 2009 at 6:59pm My God! wrote:
I couldn't have put it better myself.... Well done Ed!
On 27 Aug 2009 at 7:03pm Spongebob wrote:
Couldn't have written that better myself Ed. Nice one.
On 28 Aug 2009 at 8:26am Mystic Mog wrote:
Ed. Please read pervious threads for those shops that will be threatened by an expanded Tesco. Tesco will threaten those 'normal' shops (there are some Spongey, Smiths, Boots etc) and the amount of organic string and candle shops will increase, therefore expanding the so called class / income divide. The lack of an independant greengrocer (Bills excepetd) is in part due to our use of supermarkets. Expanded Tesco = pretentious shops
So if Spongebob will stop promoting an expanded Tesco, I will stop arguing against him.
On 28 Aug 2009 at 9:29am Observant wrote:
I think you'll find the person using the psuedonym Spongebob on here is, infact, a very arsey woman!
On 28 Aug 2009 at 10:41am Hypocrite wrote:
I have to admit to shopping in Tesco, but I can see the argument against any enlargement. It is quite clear to anyone that has lived in Lewes since 'pre-Tesco' times that numerous 'normal' shops have closed down as a result. These include greengrocers, butchers, minimarkets, newsagents etc... The closure of these kind of shops is what cleared the way for the 'snobby' shops to move in. To deny that this has happened is just burying your head in the sand. It doesn't therefore require much thought to see what would happen if Tesco enlarged and expanded into new areas. For instance the big Tescos have large music and DVD sections. What then would happen to Octave ? You may say that Octave cater for specialist interests and can get hold of any cd you may want, but the bread and butter that keeps shops like this going is the mass interest popular and chart music. You can see what happened to Cliffe bookshop - they catered for specific needs, but the bigger shops (including Tesco) selling the bestsellers at a fraction of the price took their bread and butter business away and they couldn't survive. The same will happen to places like Mackays and New Look if cheap (and cheap quality) clothes, especially for kids, are sold by Tesco. These are the sort of shops that will suffer. Larger Tescos also offer pharmacy, opticians, electical goods, stationery, computer supplies, homeware, toys, the list goes on and on. Some people (one in particular) keeps banging on about choice, but an enlarged Tesco would eventually take away much of the choice, and open the door for more twine emporia and 'I saw you coming' type shops in the High Street.
On 28 Aug 2009 at 10:51am Taff wrote:
Surely it doesnt matter about the choice of shops? What is important is where we choose to spend our hard earned.
No doubt there are many people, on here also, who frequently use internet shopping then complain when local shops close down.
You makes your choice and you pays your money. No debate.
On 28 Aug 2009 at 11:07am Spongebob wrote:
I could spend hours picking your post apart hypocite but i haven't got time.
However, some of the following items you mention needs discussing
1) Pharmacy. We already have 4 pharmacies in Lewes. People will continue to use the ones nearest their doctors. You'll probably get some from River lodge go to Tescos if they have a pharmacy.
2)Opticians. We have 3 opticians within 200 yards of each other in the high street. They'll end up putting each other out of business.
3) Electrical goods. Apart from Argos, we have no electrical shops. Currys do not sell toasters, kettles etc.
4) Computer supplies. Apart from Currys and argos again.
5) Toys. Argos.
As you say, the list goes on. Argos, currys and boots are big chains too and do you honestly think that healthy competition between large chains is a bad thing ?......there's only one winner and that's the consumer.
You also have to see Hypocrite that shops come and go and there's absolutely no evidence that tesco has been responsible for their closure. I could name a dozen shops that closed before tescos or Safeway (Waitrose) opened.....who was responsible for Liptons closing, or Timothy Whites or Rice Brothers or................................blah blah, i could go on.
On 28 Aug 2009 at 12:55pm Hypocrite wrote:
No could about it Spongebob - You do go on !, anyway,
1) Pharmacy. I very rarely use the one nearest my doctor, because at the time I go to the doctors, ie. after work, the chemist is usually closed. Tesco is open till late and you don't have to pay to park there either.
2) Opticians. Yes there are, and if Tesco start offering this service then their demise will be even quicker. You pretty much said it yourself.
3, 4 & 5) You are right, but before we had Argos in the town we had independent shops selling all these things. I know I would rather buy electrical goods or a cumputer from a specialist shop that can offer advice rather than from a spotty teenager in Argos. As I said, you are right, but replace the name Tesco with Argos and it still proves my point that smaller shops are driven out by the big chains, and again, your argument actually backs this up.
You do not mention the other types of shops that I listed, but as they are slowly whittled away there will be less and less need for shoppers to go into the town centre, and not only the rest of the shops, but the very heart and soul of Lewes will then also start to suffer.
You might say that healthy competition between large chains is good, but this is not competition between the big chains, it is between the big chains and the town centre independent shops. I know for a fact for instance that at least two greengrocers in the town closed as a direct result of Safeway opening, I don't know the exact circumstances of all of the other shops that have closed down since - do you Spongebob ? I doubt it very much. Its just easier to say that they would have closed down anyway, just not necessarily true.
Its about time you stopped letting the prospect of a cheap pair of pants cloud your mind (which is exactly what Tesco want to happen), and start thinking about what your choice will be in 5 years time when Lewes is a ghost town. I don't actually think you are bothered about choice though, despite what you might say. I think you are more concerned with convenience, and being able to buy everything in one shop - even if it is cheap tat !