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Europe and the Tories.Can they survive?

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On 21 Apr 2016 at 8:50am Party Pooper wrote:
“We are trapped inside the tortured mind of a party that has been wrestling with its demons for many years and has now succumbed to madness”I have my doubts that the Tory Party can survive the vicious internecine bloodletting and widespread character assassination that has broken out over the EU referendum.No matter who wins ,the rifts that have opened up may never heal.

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On 21 Apr 2016 at 9:04am Here we go again wrote:
Why are you people obsessed with the Tory party?
You've already forgotten that they'll be in power for another four years regardless of any internal upheaval.
Get over it and get on with your lives
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 9:49am GoM wrote:
Just rejoice and be thankful they have 4 years to further our dream.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 10:23am Owl wrote:
since Cameron is not a conservative nor is osbourne I hope they get rid of these two sharpish and install a decent and actual conservative, one who cares for every section of society and wants to bring back democracy and sovereignty from the EU.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 11:04am pn wrote:
There is bit more to worry about than the Tory Party; having looked at the Gove`s speech and the clinically insane intentions of the “I Hate Immigrants “ / Brexit crew , I`d say a lot.
Gove has now announced that in the event of our leaving the EU we will not only quit the EU but the single market entirely. Not like Norway or even Switzerland but like the Ukraine, we will try to do a Free Trade Deal with the EU No doubt such a deal is, possible but outside the single market we will face growing non tarrif blocks to trade . For Canada, who have been seven years trying to sort this out it may make sense. For us , with half our trade going to the EU it is madness
.In the short term with a fair wind) trade in goods may survive semi intact, although I doubt it , but this country’s largest currency earner is services and this direction takes out outside the market in Legal Financial Banking and Insurance services entirely.When it was put to Gove that this would destroy the City ( a sector that produces £65bn in taxes ) – he merely said that he was sure the ingenuity of the City would allow it to retain its position .
Words fail me .. oh that’s alright then, coming form an ex jounro with no f idea ? But Insurance alone is the largest employer in the South East and much it bound up with Freedom of Services. Such a wild idea puts at risk every job in our service industries !!
The reason for this loony tunes stupidity is this. Brexit know the only reason people will vote for them is to close the door to foreigners and although European Freedom of Movement has nothing to do with the ill feeling some migrant communities may have created ,they can at least link the subjects this way
So there you have it bigoted stupidity versus jobs and security and prosperity.
Please everyone with a shred of humanity, get out there and do what you can to save our jobs from these monomaniacal zealots and their dreams of going back to the 1950s
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 11:40am The new way wrote:
The EU is a tool for the Neo-Liberalists and their harmful, poisonous doctrine of planet rape, erosion of personal liberties and outright slavery for most people in ever more demanding jobs. We need to get out and watch the collapse of the Tory party as they flounder after the EU exit vote and then the imminent financial crash that will prove once and for all that this political system is not working for any but the very few at the top. Then we can have a new proper left wing Labour party that can govern for the many and not the few. It is going to be tough times ahead but we can all do it! it might even go beyond the Labour party to a completely new style of politics that places honesty, integrity and the highest attainable goal of putting love and happiness in the hearts of its population and removing the creeds of judgement, selfishness, fear and endless consumerism.
Our brothers and sisters across the world will be our main concern and how to stop wars and feed the starving. I don't say this is easily achievable but to start looking honestly in that direction and away from the insanity and madness the world is suffering from at this moment in time has got to be an ideal worth striving for. Come the glorious day citizen I will love and forgive you and we will make a paradise on earth. We have created hell on earth many times and we have no proof that there is any kind of better life waiting for us when we die as we each and all will do one day so lets actually do this. There is nothing stopping us. Anything is possible.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 12:05pm Paul trollman wrote:
Another rambling, rude, bigoted and thoroughly dim witted post from Paul.
Go live in Brussels.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 1:26pm Hyena wrote:
'The new way' which particular cult are you a member of?
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 1:50pm Black Pill wrote:
New Way, have you actually met any humans? Or perhaps you are practicing for a Miss World winners acceptance speech? Politics is about allocating and reallocating resources as means to incentivise behaviour. This works best when you have an understanding of what motivates people both long and short term.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 2:32pm Trooper wrote:
@pn, Despite your usual ill informed rantings, we are buying four more HGVs in anticipation of the increased work, post the referendum, we shall also hire more staff in the near future.It will not matter who is allegedly "in charge" trade will go on.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 2:39pm EU the truth. wrote:
Former Mi5 Agent David Shayler On Why The EU Referendum Is A Charade and THOSE who are behind everything.

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On 21 Apr 2016 at 2:46pm Zebedee wrote:
Perhaps if the UK votes to stay in the EU the Tory party will split. Oh well, I guess every cloud has a silver lining. :-)
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 2:58pm UKIP +Tory wrote:
In the unlikely event of the Remainers winning I think we will see a new party of the right comprising of the Brexit Tories and ourselves.The fight will not be over as we will never accept a remain verdict .We will make this country ungovernable ,till we are given a second referendum and we win it..Lets hope it does n`t come to that shall we and the country votes out.
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On 21 Apr 2016 at 8:44pm A Person wrote:
"We will make this country ungovernable ,till we are given a second referendum " How exactly?

Interesting, since the claim by the Brexiters seems to be that this country must leave to be restored to full democracy. This doesn't sound terribly democratic.


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