On 3 Feb 2014 at 1:21am Taxpayer wrote:
Just a little reminder to the strangely (or not) silent Lewes District Cllr Donna Edmunds that we are still waiting for her to clarify her views on whether or not she supports David Silvester, and whether she endorses allowing Christians to discriminate against gay people by withholding their business from them.
I now know Cllr Edmunds has seen the this enquiry , so am curious as to why she has not responded to it.
Many of us are disturbed by what Cllr Edmunds has been saying and writing elsewhere on this subject.
On 3 Feb 2014 at 9:21am Market Street Resident wrote:
Love thy neighbour etc.
On 3 Feb 2014 at 11:22am Concerned wrote:
Unfortunately Ms Edmunds comments are not very loving. (see ranty Facebook page) and one only has to look at the rising tide of homophobia to be concerned.
On 3 Feb 2014 at 1:04pm Knoxon Cutts wrote:
Rising tide of homophobia???Is that in the past 5 minutes? I must have missed it.Any backlash against the general acceptance of homosexuals in,as far as I have witnessed,the past 50 years has been caused by a rising tide of over-political crrectness like this.If people don't want to have dealings with someone for any reason whatsoever thats their business,their loss.To quote from the people you appear to dislike - get the plank out of your eye before you try to get the sawdust out of someone else's.
On 3 Feb 2014 at 2:00pm resident wrote:
Oh dear, i suggest you try finding a gay couple who want to go on a holiday together to Russian or Uganda. Statistics have shown a rise in homophobic attacks in UK in the past few years. These people are your friends, neighbours and relatives. Do you think that is OK? Cllr Edmunds apparently doesn't think gay men are entitled to the same rights as everyone else, yet patronises and insults gay people with the silly 'love the sinner' nonsense. Disliking homophobia is nothing to do with the outdated concept of 'political correctness gone made' .
Anyway, this thread is about what Cll Edmunds political views are. You would think that a Cllr would rush to disassociate herself from David Silvester's deeply unpleasant and mad view that gay marriage legislation caused flooding, , and Cllr Edmunds own published article seemingly backing the discrimination against gay people by Christian businesses. Does Cllr Edmunds not agree with her UKIP bosses? As the electorate we are entitled to know.
Cllr Edmunds published views can be found on her Facebook page
On 3 Feb 2014 at 2:48pm Zebedee wrote:
Donna Edmunds is a Libertarian Christian (an oxymoron if ever there was one).
As a libertarian (sic) she believes in freedom for the individual and a small non-intrusive state. As such she will be fine with gay marriage and homosexuals becoming Bishops.
But as a Christian and UKIP activist it's hard to think she could promote the freedom of homosexuals to marry and hold positions of authority in the Christian Church.
Donna, what is your position on both of these things?
On 3 Feb 2014 at 4:18pm Taxpayer wrote:
Yes, we can add those to my list. I have been waiting some time now, possibly because Cll Edmunds views are as I think they are. I may end up (like Barcombe and Hamsey Parish Council) having to ask UKIP to give her a nudge.
What is the point of a silent Councillor?
On 3 Feb 2014 at 6:41pm Resident wrote:
On the contrary. She is very vocal and never misses a chance to express her views. She tweets a lot, manages a UKIP site web and various Facebook pages, attends debates etc.
The problem is that she does very little but air her views.
On 3 Feb 2014 at 7:34pm Local person wrote:
she is extremely vocal in her quest as an individual for UKIP promotion, but extremely silent as a councillor, especially when asked to do something by someone she represents. (e.g., to clarify her political views as per above) She may wish to read her Code of conduct at this point to avoid ruining any chance she may have left to 'represent' anyone in the future. It is embarrassing, verging on disgraceful that she is refusing to speak. She must be the only politician in the country who doesn't want to enlighten us with here endless stream of opinion.
On 3 Feb 2014 at 7:49pm dronem wrote:
Cllr Edmunds` appears only to come on here when she has a point to make. Maybe her critics, whom I support, would have a better chance of getting a response by emailing or writing to her. Hopefully they would then convey her reply to this forum
On 3 Feb 2014 at 8:43pm Knoxon Cutts wrote:
Whilst my heart bleeds for people who cannot go to Uganda for their holidays,I do wonder why no one asks the UKIP represntative whether or not she supports some kind of monetary reform in this country.Is anyone aware that money is created as debt which can only be repayed by borrowing more money and so creating more debt? Do you care more about gay holiday makers or your debt enslaved children,whatever their sexual proclivities? The fact of the matter is - it's too much trouble to find out how money is created and much more fun to parade your liberal credentials on the forum and harry people who are less perfect than yourself
On 3 Feb 2014 at 9:14pm Andrew James wrote:
I've done what any of you could have - I've left a message on her FB page asking her specifically to answer these questions.
Failure to respond is proof of her cowardice.
On 4 Feb 2014 at 7:30am Resident wrote:
I'm surprised you are able to leave a message on her Facebook page. Since UKIPs Donna Edmunds used Twitter to call her constituent Jim Cornelius the village idiot and hoped he got cancer she's hidden her account from anyone but those that agree with her. You'd have thought she'd have done the same with her Facebook account.
On 4 Feb 2014 at 7:43am Boris wrote:
I see the liberal Bigots are back.
Honestly Taxpayer how old are you?
Name calling is play ground behaviour. Just like in the playground your better off ignoring it, well done Donna.
On 4 Feb 2014 at 12:04pm Taxpayer wrote:
Name calling? Oh dear. I am simply asking for clarity from Cllr Edmunds who is the apparent author of some articles about gay people that are published in her name. It is surprisingly difficult. I am not sure why anyone would want to ignore what a Cllr has apparently written. I have asked on here, as Cllr Edmunds uses this public Forum regularly, and indeed had posted her own comments just days earlier than my enquiry. If anyone is interested in the kind of views that concern me, Cllr Edmunds' Facebook page is not blocked, although she has edited out comments relating to claims she later admitted were untrue which concerned the resignation of two fellow Councillors. (they had simply resigned due to other commitments, and moving from the area) For Facebook: Simply search Donna Edmunds (UKIP)
Thank you Andrew james, that is helpful. There is also a UKIP LGBT Facebook page. They have been very clear in condemning David Silvester, so may also be concerned to learn about Cllr Edmunds reluctance to explain her apparent views about 'Christians' discriminating against gay people by refusing to serve them. Because 'Boris', that is what seems to be her view.
On 4 Feb 2014 at 12:19pm Voter wrote:
Andrew, I cannot see your question . Could you tell us exactly where it is ? Thanks
On 4 Feb 2014 at 1:38pm Boris wrote:
My point is that being against gay marriage and respecting the views of Christian hoteliers with regards to whom they let stay in their establishment doesn't necessarily make her homophobic.
she came on the forum and said that she was against the fore mentioned but didn't have a problem with homosexuals would you still considered a homophobic?
On 4 Feb 2014 at 2:48pm Taxpayer wrote:
My enquiry , still unanswered, is detailed above and relates to Cllr Edmunds' published material that seemingly endorses discriminating against gay people in business, and her as yet unknown views about David Silvester.
Still waiting.....
On 4 Feb 2014 at 4:39pm Zebedee wrote:
She edited out those comments about the resignations of those councillors did she? She should probably be a bit more circumspect and think before she opens her mouth (or puts her finger to keyboard). She has a habit of making a fool of herself and attempting to mop up after the fact. Did she apologise to the councillors?
On 4 Feb 2014 at 7:12pm Andrew James wrote:
Looks like I've been deleted and blocked. You're only allowed to enter a debate with her so long as you agree with her petty little hate politics
She knows the questions are asked but is far too cowardly to answer.
What an appalling flake of a woman.
On 4 Feb 2014 at 7:33pm Resident wrote:
Which page of hers are you referring to? Donna in Sussex, Donna for Barcombe etc etc
On 4 Feb 2014 at 7:47pm Andrew James wrote:
The one I alighted on was called Donna Edmunds Politician.
Rather a pompous declaration for a lowly councilor, but I hear self-agrandisement and puffery is all the rage in UKIP circles.
On 4 Feb 2014 at 9:32pm Mr Mirage wrote:
'Donna Edmunds Politician'!? He he he he....... nothing if not modest!
On 4 Feb 2014 at 10:26pm Clifford wrote:
Boris wrote: 'I see the liberal Bigots are back... Name calling is play ground behaviour.'
Oh Boris, you should read what you say before you post it, or you'll make yourself look very silly.
On 5 Feb 2014 at 12:41am Andrew James wrote:
He is funny, eh, with his hypocrisy and illiteracy and ignorance and defence of cowardice all wrapped up in a neat little package?
On 5 Feb 2014 at 1:30am Taxpayer wrote:
Andrew, if you haven't tried it already, Facebook: "Donna Edmunds (UKIP) or even better ask UKIP GBLT page to ask her. They are unlikely to delete an enquiry that simply seeks that Donna Edmunds clarifies wether or not she supports the views of David Silvester (now ex-UKIP) and if she supports Christian businesses being able to withhold their services from gay people. That is not a judgement either way, it is simply a request for information and clarity. I would think that UKIP GBLT would be as concerned as we are.
On 5 Feb 2014 at 3:43am UKIP JIM wrote:
For the record, I'm no fan of her either.
Her parents were illegal immigrants (or asylum seekers, refugees, economic migrants whatever the bleeding heart liberals call them these days) - the very people we don't want in our beautiful country.
On 5 Feb 2014 at 10:24am Boris wrote:
Clifford , what part of what I posted ( with the exception of the typos that I made) are making me look silly?
On 5 Feb 2014 at 11:18am Taxpayer wrote:
Clifford, i hope you don't mind my answering on your behalf just to get rid of the side show.
Clue : "Liberal Bigots" and "name calling"
back to the subject of this thread.
still waiting.....
On 5 Feb 2014 at 12:52pm Boris wrote:
Are you looking to be the man who exposes Donna Edmunds as being Homophobic?
Do you think that everyone in Lewes will come up to you and pat you on the back and say ' Thanks Taxpayer, I very nearly voted for UKIP in May but now that I know the candidate clearly hates all gay people I'm going to vote Lib Dem instead'?
I hold my hands to name calling and you and yours clearly don't like it, yet think nothing of doing it to other people.
On 5 Feb 2014 at 1:38pm Zebedee wrote:
For me at least it's not about the girl being homophobic, it's about her hypocrisy..
BTW. Clifford's comment was quite clear. He was pointing out your hypocrisy Boris (as Taxpayer, and everyone else who read it but you, understood).
On 5 Feb 2014 at 4:17pm Taxpayer wrote:
Boris, this thread is asking for clarification of Cllr Donna Edmund's views, because she is an elected representative and has written about this political issue. Why would you object to that? You clearly do not like me asking the question either, and I can only wonder why that really is.
Incidentally, Boris. Women also pay tax, and so do UKIP supporters who are worried about UKIP Councillors making UKIP look ridiculous by writing questionable articles, and then going into hiding.