On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:02pm Times are a changing wrote:
According to Miss Abbott, Corbyn is not planning to 'take us out of' the EU or NATO......what exactly is he planning?
Personally, I dont want to go back to the Labour politics of the 70s, nor did i much like Blair's faux labour politics as there is not much between Blair and Cameron's ideology. So not wanting the extreme of either party, nor the quasi-conservatism of New Labour, where do we go from here?
On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:13pm Newt wrote:
So you don't want old Lab or new Lab, what so you want?
On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:13pm Newt wrote:
So you don't want old Lab or new Lab, what so you want?
On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:21pm Times are a changing wrote:
Is it too much to ask for a Labour that reflects where 'we' are today - having moved on from old Labour and not agreeing with New Labour?
On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:32pm Newt wrote:
Ok, so what are we? What would reflect your views?
On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:54pm Times are a changing wrote:
I still consider myself working class, despite leaving south-east London and having been raised in council housing, and now having the privilege of living in affluent East Sussex with a mortgage and a good job. There are many people in my situation who dont want the Conservative ideology nor New Labour - Liberalism lacks the strength of it's convictions.
The job i do keeps me mindful of the impoverishment and disadvantages of many and the advantages of so few.
I know that the NHS and Social Services are dying a death, whilst my neighbour sends their children to private schools and has a second property worth millions. So few have too much, and so many too little. However, I cannot believe that 'extremism' is the answer. Almost, there are too many issues to tackle, which I believe is a way of detracting from the basic issues we need to address. I cant help feeling that this country had the lid put on it years ago; legislated to the hilt whilst we were busy watching football!
On 13 Sep 2015 at 2:55pm Belladonna wrote:
Give the guy a chance - he's already said that policy would be formulated democratically by party members at conference, not dictated top down or formulated on the hoof or short term knee jerk responses to the media. He's only been leader 24 hours !
On 13 Sep 2015 at 3:06pm Times are a changing wrote:
Every politician sets out their stall prior to leadership, which is open to interpretation at a later date.
On 13 Sep 2015 at 3:36pm trooper wrote:
@Belladona. That would be policy as dictated by Comrade McClusky and company I presume.
On 13 Sep 2015 at 3:57pm Jules wrote:
Well I like him. Hes better that our last Prime Minister.
On 13 Sep 2015 at 4:18pm Paul Newman wrote:
He has said that poliucy will be formulated "democratically " because he is not supported by anyone in the Parliamentary Party. His idea of democracy is to let the flash mob that elected him decide what Britain’s Economic policies should be . Beyond parody !
You see the problem with the Labour Party MPs is that they were actually elected by real people voters and would like to keep their jobs . So by democracy he means a democracy that misses out the people who voted Labour , the people they voted for, and relying exclusively on the lunatic fringe and union extremists who have captured the Party
Thus far the tactic seems to be to hide .He has avoided an interview with Andrew Marr and is going to try to avoid PMs QT
Its embarrassing
On 13 Sep 2015 at 4:56pm Badger wrote:
Five years one way, then five years the other (except in the case of New Labour?) Five years of promoting the private sector and share holders, five years of promoting the public sector. Corrupt or bad decisions by politicians from all parties, including the unions on occasion. Perhaps oversimplified but this seems to be the basic democratic system we have. I can't help thinking that we do need a better system. Apparently only one in six of the those of us allowed to vote actually voted Conservative, and they got in! I know lots of people who just don't vote as they don't think any of the parties represent them. Not very good is it?!
On 13 Sep 2015 at 5:05pm New Broom wrote:
The old system is corrupt,we need a big change and J.C. is the man to do it.
On 13 Sep 2015 at 7:08pm The new way wrote:
Well we have the potential to pick up votes from the greens, Lib Dems and UKIP as well as the SNP. On top of that we have a massive youth vote to tap into and a huge reserve from the dissafected who were sick of the sleaze and the smarm. I am no mathematician but i would say there is gold in them hills.
The right really should be getting worried this time.
On 13 Sep 2015 at 11:32pm Belladonna wrote:
The right ARE worried. Hence Newman panicked assertions about Corbyn's 'extremism' and his scaremongering. Hilarious. The Labour Party have picked up 15.000 members in 24 hours. This is similar to the SNP effect. Corbyn got a mandate from across the party. It couldn't have been more emphatic but here we have PN - from the establishment political class - trying to convince us the electorate have got it wrong. The people are speaking - and the long time disenfranchised have hope. Get used to it PN.
On 13 Sep 2015 at 11:34pm Mavis wrote:
Can you imagine Corbyn v Farage across the floor of the House of Commons ? New face of policitics !!