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On 12 Sep 2015 at 12:06pm Celine wrote:
Life has just improved. So great to hear socialism expounded again.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 12:08pm Mrs Grumpy wrote:
Could be wonderful - if they learn to cut their suit according to their cloth.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 12:11pm Celine wrote:
The problem is getting a grip on global capitalism and the greedy, amoral individuals who drive it.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 12:14pm Celine wrote:
We also all need to wean ourselves off constant consumption. It's a drug.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 12:44pm Paul Newman wrote:
Even worse than I had imagined .A few points
1 The only candidate who showed any commitment to reducing the deficit was only able to garner 4.5% of the Labour Part vote. That , remember was Liz Kendall, the candidate backed by the majority of the PLP
2 With boundary changes coming Corbyn now knows that anyone who is not on board with his extremist agenda can be purged by the tribes of squirrelly loons in the Party.
3 Amidst comical calls for unity the BBC were obliged to interview a string of well known Labour politicians who have already said that would not serve in a Corbyn Casinet
4 Anyone who seriously thinks his “porinting money “ plan is viable should see Yvette Cooper pull it to pieces
5 Were Jeremy Corbyn not the lerader of the Labour Party the presence of left wing Tom EWatson would be bad enough on i ts own and naturally the Mayoral candidate is also form the left of the Party
6 Already we are hearing about the right wing media “ on the BBC ( ha ha ) from Corbyn`s point of view the Guardian is right wing of course
7 Already we hear that ”personal “ politics are bad. By personal Corbyn means referring to what he has said done and voted for . I think that is valid …so does any sane person but then the far left always want to control the media eventually .

A bizarre And frightening day when the Red Flag echoed around the country again
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 2:07pm the kronic wrote:
I do not subscribe to any political party or agenda. However, i feel we need some sort of Tory opposition with a bit of backbone. We may have just found it. I just prey they don't go to bed with the SNP in the next election.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 2:38pm Celine wrote:
Never mind Paul. Just think how much more interesting it's going to be.....
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 2:41pm Badger wrote:
Good to see someone in politics at last with 'socialist' values, something Tony and his crew seemed to forget in their quasi-Tory party. for many people the Labour Party hasn't been the party they wanted or needed for a long time, and there were no viable alternatives apart from the Green Party since all faith was lost in the Liberals for enabling a Tory government, although a 'moderated, Tory government is obviously better than the Tory government we have that really doesn't give a sh*t about the lives of most of the population.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 2:46pm Celine wrote:
Hear, hear Badger. I despaired at the neo con politics of Tony Blair and am so pleased none of his followers won. As I said, so good to hear socialism again.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 5:09pm trooper wrote:
Yea and it is said that the lunatics have indeed taken over the asylum.
If, as many believe there is a GOD please listen and save us from this creature CORBYN and his fanatical believers and do gooding army.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 5:14pm Clifford wrote:
I waited to see what Paul Newman said about Corbyn's election as Labour leader before making my decision. A useful rule of thumb is 'Listen to what Paul says and the opposite will be the case'.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 5:22pm Feline wrote:
Trooper, as opposed to saving us from the creature Cameron and his greedy and self serving narcissistic followers?
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 5:41pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Oh happy day!
At last a party leader I feel I can support, for the first time in over 30 years.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 5:42pm Badger wrote:
@ Trooper. Not sure why you dislike what you call 'do-gooders' so much? These are the kind of people who believe in helping to poor, sick etc., not to mention the average working family have a decent standard of living, so what's so wrong about that? There's a lot of inequality in Britain, and it's those born into privilege who tend to keep things that way...
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 6:05pm Celine wrote:
Do gooders; are these people who are concerned about people other then, as a well known business man once said to me, ' me and mine'? As in ' Nothing matters but me and mine'. Yup, the horror of the lunatics who care about those other than ' me and mine'. The end of civilisation as we know it. That is late capitalist civilisation where nothing matters other than how much dosh you've got (regardless as to how you came by that dosh) and how therefore you can demonstrate your superiority over lesser mortals with your Vogue Range Rover etc.etc. Oh what a civilized culture we do inhabit in the 21st century.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 6:37pm Paul Newman wrote:
Badger living standards have increased for all including the poorest and it has been capitalism that has achieved this whereas the planned economies collapsed in the 20th century.
Wringing your hands and advertising your own goodness is not very useful when there is no money to help anyone !
The constituency that supports high taxes and high spending are not predominantly the "poor" they are the relatively affluent members of the public sector unions whose commitment to taxnd policies is driven by good old fashioned self interest .
Do you really think its viable for the country to print money for current spending ( a policy supported by none in either Parliamentary Party) ?
Do you really think revenue can be raised by “asking he rich to pay” ( asking in the socialist sense of ordering on threat of incarceration), the rich pay as much now as they did in the 70s when 90% top rates crushed enterprise and the country collapsed in strikes and stagflation .

None of this has any brains to it at all , don`t take my word for it take the word of the very left wing Yvette Cooper that is why no serious figure will be associated with this buffoon .
You say his socialist worker chums want to help people . Personally I want people to be able to help themselves but a competition in good intentions is not the point , the solutions will not work. No amount of waffling about hope will butter parsnips , no amount of happy clappy hugs will increase money in the bank. Far from it in fact it is dangerously delusional and the road both to Greece and Zimbabwe .
I will happily disagree in a cordial way with Blairites Brownites and the traditional mainstream Labour Party , god knows the Conservative Party has its faults but Corbyn is over the line. He is a danger to everyone`s job everyone`s mortgage to our security and support for him is beyond the pale.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 6:54pm rejoice and be thankfull wrote:
that they haven't got a hope of winning an election. We do need an opposition party in a democracy though.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 9:11pm Red Better Than Fascism wrote:
What were David Cameron & Jeremy Corbyn up to in the 1980s..

Check it out here »
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 9:29pm Paul Newman wrote:
Yeah ..well done Corbyn, unfortunately he now feels that ISIS are comparable with anti apartheid terrrorists and supported the IRA when they were killing British citizens , which they are again.
Cameron is posh ...its not ideal but its not a deal breaker , Corbyn is a traitor and a cretin.
Thats a problem
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 9:29pm Get Real wrote:
And the anti-apartheid movement he was involved in was run by the revolutionary communist party of Great Britain. If you innocently signed up being against apartheid as I did you received letters encouraging you to send birthday cards to IRA terrorists in prison. Corbyn is a terrorist supporter and a clear and present danger to this country. When the attack comes from those he will let in, which it will, I hope you will remember if you voted for him ...
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 10:14pm Ben wrote:
Praise the Lord! I will never see a labour government again in my lifetime. Now we can really get this country back on its feet without any interruptions.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 10:20pm Dexter wrote:
Oh Paul. Can I ask you if you are going to flounce off again? It's well overdue. The fact is, I think that you're scared; really scared.
In reality you should be sitting at home pissing your pants with laughter at this result but sadly you find yourself on the back foot peddling your crank nonsense. As always, you comically fall into the great big open trap before you. No-one is capable of individual thought or opinion in your bitter little angry world.
I hope today's result brings a new dawn of thought and proper debate. Unfortunately, I think all it will do is ratchet up the volume of blow-hards such as yourself. Oh, and I know I have just resorted to name calling but if you wish to define your use of 'cretin', please enlighten us.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 10:27pm Kier Hardy wrote:
Cowards flinch and traitors sneer. Which are you?
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 10:50pm Mark wrote:
It's all quite exciting really, I feel. A Labour Party leader who's left wing.
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 10:52pm Dexter wrote:
Air craft carriers with no planes.
A police force that can't record crime due to savage cuts in 'bobbies on the beat'.
The utter disregard of "hard working families".
An army composed of part time territorials
A foreign policy that swings from attack one side, then the other.
A domestic policy that one says keep them out, the very next says let them in.
Tax pasties, no hold on, don't tax pasties.
A chancellor who has allegedly associated with cocaine, prostitutes & (most definitely) Peter Mandelson.
This lot make the Heath government look competent & if a labour government had a track record like this, well we would be reading about the disaster for fifty years
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 10:57pm Belladonna wrote:
'Printing money' - er isn't that also known as Quantative Easing ? Something that our dear Chancellor Gideon is rather fond of - as are his mates in the banks who have trousered most of the cash raised
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On 12 Sep 2015 at 11:14pm Dexter wrote:
Exactly Belladonna. Print money to prop up the banks and the thieves that bankrupted the system (that had to be nationalised) or alternatively print money to rebuild this countries Victorian infrastructure. Quantitative Easing was put on to the bank's balance sheets. All they did was pay off their creditors (the Arabs/Chinese) and invest in the markets, oil, gas and food. Banking failed & was nationalised. Those banks that weren't, went cap in hand to the Arabs & the Chinese. All QE did for us as a society was to devalue the pound and push prices up by eye watering levels.
Why not spend money on our Railways; better than a fourth home, a helicopter or a private beach.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 1:01am Dingo wrote:
Oh Happy Day!
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 1:32am Dingo wrote:
Which is it ?
Your either so stupid beyond belief Paul Newman (more stupid than me) or you must be insane!
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 1:47am Dingo wrote:
I am sure there is a stinking stinking bog somewhere in our wonderful country in which you can bury your empty head, !
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 6:52am Vogue wrote:
The Range Rover Vogue is the most ridiculous design I have seen. With that sloping roof I imagine it to have been crushed by an enormous cartoon anvil dropped from a great height. No doubt one will be @ the rusty hut by the river.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 7:43am Vague wrote:
Almost as ridiculous as some people that use the 'at' symbol just to seem clever & with it.
No doubt one will get bored by 'it' soon?

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On 13 Sep 2015 at 7:45am Ben wrote:
My hard working family don't earn a lot but we manage just fine by being careful. Funny how the whingers are all labour voters.....they are about as capable of running a household as their party are a country.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 8:29am Ben the Whinge wrote:
Whinge! Whine! Moan! Whinge! Whinge! Whinge!
My name is Whingey Ben!


I'm sure we have met several times before don't you use many different aliases.
 
 
On 13 Sep 2015 at 8:32am Jules wrote:
As I will be going to Uni next year I think it is brilliant that I wont have to pay tuition fees. Also, free nationalised rail tickets.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 8:34am Ben the Whinge wrote:
No doubt you regularly whine and cry into your corn flakes of a morning.. that is if you can crawl and whinge your way out of bed!
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 8:54am Paul Newman wrote:

I see the Forum Troll is out on support of the Nation`s bearded joke. I can`t say I have much interest in the opinions of the lunatic fringe so lest just say if that sort of thing attracts you , vote for it .
The Police are performing considerably better despite the necessary cuts to public expenditure and if anyone has ever dealt with the Police you will not be surprised there were considerable efficiency savings to be found . On foreign policy , its hard to imagine a more irresponsible foreign policy than leaving NATO , abandoning Trident , ditching America as an ally cosying up to Putin , apologising for ISIS and the IRA , blocking any military action whatsoever , and dismantling the army ( for christs sake ).
On whether we can print money to spend it on stuff Corbyn would not be the first far left demogague to debauch his currency the second he got his hands on the state . QE was a measure designed to avert the risk of deflation. If Deflation gets hold people defer spending and a tail spin into slump get set in
This is not the same thing as building a load of vainglorious state projects with cash that comes out of thin air
This is a link to Yvette Cooper on the subject and I think she makes the point well

Check it out here »
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 8:56am Bushy wrote:
Jeremy Corbyn NEVER had the mandate or authority to negotiate with PIRA , he never took part in ANY of the peace talks that led to the GFA , he met with them for one reason only, to show support, he even held a minutes silence for the provos killed at loughall ffs, he was a fellow traveller so to speak, if he wasnt, he would've met members of loyalist paramilitaries. I for one despise Corbyn for this, I was an 18 year old soldier when i saw my first victim of PIRA, he was squaddie virtually incinerated by a car bomb in Crossmaglen , South Armagh, he had no eyelids , ears and every inch of exposed skin looked like a beefburger, we couldnt even get a drip in him because his skin was too hot, he died(maybe thankfully) 2 weeks later, and all the while Corbyn was cosying up to the b****rds that did it, he invited Gerry Adams to parliament 2 weeks after the Brighton Bomb, whatever you think of Thatcher, what about the civilian staff of the Grand whom PIRA showed such callous disregard for ? Does anyone REALLY think this treacherous toerag is fit to lead this country , and by extension its armed forces , the armed forces whose enemies who killed so many of them, were so enthusiastically championed by Jeremy Corbyn, really ? God help us if true..........
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 8:58am to Dingo wrote:
There's a dirty gent's urinal to the north of Waterloo. Would that suffice?
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 9:20am Ben wrote:
@ben the whinge. Resorting to personal insults! Always a sure sign that your argument is lost.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 9:53am Belladonna wrote:
My family also work very hard for not much money. I'm pleased Corbyn has won. Now Ben - does that personal anecdote mean I have won the argument ? No, it doesn't. Stop spouting meaningless drivel.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 9:53am Belladonna wrote:
My family also work very hard for not much money. I'm pleased Corbyn has won. Now Ben - does that personal anecdote mean I have won the argument ? No, it doesn't. Stop spouting meaningless drivel.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 10:32am One who knows wrote:
Paul Newman. Believe me, the police are not performing considerably better, whatever that means. They are overloaded with work and are looking at not dealing with certain things, as is the NHS. I am sick to death of this scapegoating of the public services. Just remember Shoreham and the brilliant response by people who want to serve the public rather than just being interested in trousering as much money as possible. That may be an unusual occurance but they deal with smaller scale ghastlyness every day. Be grateful and respect them.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 10:47am Jack wrote:
I love it. That's the labour party unelectable for the foreseeable future. Lib dems still in disarray too. Love it love it love it !!!!!!
ps I'm a Conservative voter in case you were wondering.
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On 13 Sep 2015 at 11:14am Achilles wrote:
I can't be the only person with inconvenient views which don't fit in with any party in particular.
Also why do people think being angry about something makes any difference to the validity of their ideology?


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