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On 9 Jan 2016 at 7:16am Sojourner wrote:
So, someone said they were collecting for Calais. I went to the shed and got out my old knuckle dusters,baseball bats,some pepper spray, large padlocks and helmets and other protective clothing. Took it down there and the lady got very angry.
How was I to know they weren't collecting for the drivers and French residents?
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 8:41am Thank you! wrote:
What a truly inspiring post! Inspiring me not be so miserable, hateful and ugly as you and to bring blankets, wellies, jumpers, warm socks, coats and other winter clothing down to the collection point. And also thank you for reminding me to be grateful that I have not had to flee a war-torn homeland to face prejudice, illness, fear and an uncertain fate. And thank God I'm not you.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 9:13am Paul Newman wrote:
Lord is the choice then, fatuous self delighted hypocrites and outright racists. I have increasingly come to the view that they are like two drunk fools holding each other up.
The BNP are gone, and yes their voters are no doubt the property of Mr Farrage, but then the entire Labour Party is now openly heading towards a totalitarian planned economy with little or no opposition form the invertebrates of the PLP. Does the name Stalin no longer register any loathing in Liberal circles are the 40,000,000 slaughtered and starved forgotten?
I don`t wish to aim silly slurs at those who are enthused by UKIP. I used to attend Bruges group meetings. I went to see Norman Tebbit talk( a man I still admire enormously ). UKIP was then a reasonable voice of constitutional conservatism making valid points about Parliamentary sovereignty. What is it becoming with its flirtation with National Socialism and dog whistle hate mongering ?
It is becoming that thing that any conservative hates and feats with every fibre “ UNREASONABLE”
In the Blair period when the project to make England less English was in full swing and any complaint silenced with the accusation of racism I was enraged by the arrogance of the Liberal elite
Now I look at the 6000 bigoted and stupid comments under the Guardian’s Cologne article and see a beast has been let out of its cage. Yes we have a problem with some migrant communities and Liberal denial is unhelpful .It is not , however , the only or the most important problem we have, not by a damn long way .

I that the great majority in the real world remain moderate and will judge the froth at the edge of the sea of political life as the sewage it is.

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On 9 Jan 2016 at 9:16am Puzzled wrote:
Hang on. Haven't some of these young men already threatened us with bombing and other violence because we don't let them in. Not all of them are genuine asylum seekers?
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 10:35am Pavlov wrote:
It's great fun watching " good thinkers " signalling their virtue. I wonder how many sons they have?
Meanwhile Paul's extended conversation with himself proceeds apace.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 11:30am Duncan wrote:
And its not much fun watching the ignorance, fear and hatred spewed out by poor people like the original poster who probably don't have the intelligence to see through the tabloid media vitriol they believe to be news.
I'm not easily offended but Sojourner I feel so sad for you and your utter lack of humanity. Do you really think the migrants wouldn't rather be safe, warm and dry living in their ancestral homeland?
It really beggars belief how people like you can take pride in views such as yours.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 11:50am Big man wrote:
migrant launch unprecedented attack on lorry drivers heading for the u k .This is going on a few times a week . ( do we want people like that in the u.k no bloody way do we .) migrant attack 100s of woman in Cologne and othe parts of the e u . ( do we want people like that here no bloody way ) but if we let them in. That's what will be going on daily on the street of the uk I said this about 3 years ago . And yes I,am right so far
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 12:08pm Kipper wrote:
Vote UKIP vote WHITE.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 12:20pm common sense wrote:
They could be warm and dry if they claimed asylum like they're supposed in the first country they reach. Turkey? Greece?
They could be warm and dry if they claimed asylum in France seeing as they are actually there.
No they wait in Calais because they see us as a soft touch for benefits they tell the cameras they can expect a house and money if they come here.
We are taking genuine refugees from camps like you're supposed to. Economic migrants in Calais need to understand we have rules.
Funny how they always ask for mens clothing not women or children...
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 2:28pm Mark wrote:
The migrants must have got their facts about UK benefits from the Daily Mail. France has a much more generous benefit system than we do.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 2:42pm Smuggles wrote:
You would think people who could organise their own transport for thousands of miles could foresee the need for a few warm clothes?
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 3:17pm trooper wrote:
@Big Man. Ref to your statement of attacks.A medium sized transport company (25 HGVs) in which I have a financial interest has now made the decision to by pass Calais altogether due to the number of attacks by so called Asylum seekers (all young fit men) these were armed attacks with knives and other edged weapons., actually on the driver in addition to the damage to the vehicle which at this time runs into tens of thousands of pounds.The mental damage to the drivers is utterly wrong. I can assure you all that it is only going to get worse,and the do gooders and bleeding hearts are making it worse.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 4:18pm Rosiecheeks wrote:
Well said trooper. If France had the same gun laws as America the migrants would be no longer. No one should have to put up and pay for these unpleasant people.!
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 5:14pm John Smith wrote:
Could you explain that remark please, Rosiecheeks?
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 5:22pm trooper wrote:
A little extra to my last post that you all might find "interesting" together with some other companies we asked if we could put security guards in the cab of the HGVs we were told by the DTI in no uncertain manner that this would be construed as act of provocation and could lead to legal proceedings.
It is very depressing to think we are just trying to give people work and maintain the company, yet these people have the protection of our own Government to do as they please, with no sanctions against them.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 5:27pm Ben wrote:
All these fit young men we see in Calais, are they going to respect the rights of our womenfolk when/if they are let in? Or are they going to behave as they do to women in their country of origin. Yes, do-gooders, of course they will instantly adopt our way of life. I'm sure the events in Cologne are just coincidental to admission of millions of Arab menfolk into a culture they are unfamiliar with.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 6:39pm Rosiecheeks wrote:
Sorry John Smith. Was that too hard for you to comprehend?
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 7:11pm Ben wrote:
And I would just add that these men are no more likely to respect our women's rights here, as we would adapt to their medieval treatment of women if we moved en mass to Syria or the like.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 8:54pm John Smith wrote:
I'd just like you to say what you actually mean. One interpretation is that you think people in France should be allowed to shoot the refugees, but that cannot be it because that would be inhumane in the extreme.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 9:45pm Tipex wrote:
Ah so the argument is that immigrants and asylum seekers might manage to enter the UK and not uphold the tolerance and humanity that this county represents? I'm thinking the majority would show far more humanity than the narrow minded racists on this thread. At the time of posting Rosicheeks has 8 thumbs up for advocating the execution of migrants. I really hope none of those 8 have kids.
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On 9 Jan 2016 at 10:09pm Rosiecheeks wrote:
Our lorry drivers shouldn't have ro run the gauntlet in Calais and these immigrants should be stopped! What with the French port strikes and these nasty people, it has led to operation stack, and now they going to use green fields as lorry parks. All this is costing Britain and we don't need it.!
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 12:00am John Smith wrote:
Ahuh. So it's okay to shoot them then? They're just vermin then? Extraordinary: you have been mildly inconvenienced* by desperate people fleeing civil war or economic disadvantage, and you think it's okay to exterminate them? Wow.

*Or possibly just saw it on the news.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 7:31am V wrote:
Tolerance is just a cowards word to excuse lack of agency. Rotherham tolerated decades of rape. Justice is much harder to deliver.
Lewes leftoids are desperate to portray us as tattoo covered, shaved headed morons but if they believe that they really are naive.
People are waking up, nurses, teachers,social workers,carers,University lecturers,they are all becoming bolder in expressing their fears in private at least.
You love your marches,it reminds you of your youth when you campaigned to legalise as much degeneracy as possible.
Your favourite tactic is to accuse us of ignorance yet you fail to understand this betrays your insecurity and need for respect for your intelligence.
We don't want your respect. We don't want anything to do with you.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 9:08am Katie Hopkins wrote:
I have finally found my spiritual home! I am moving to Lewes. Oh wait though - I will be in out of town as a DFL!
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 10:28am big man wrote:
bloody rain .I just hope it rained very hard in Calais last night
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 11:15am trooper wrote:
@Tipex. I see you state that the immigrants etc in Calais would show tolerance and understanding. Two of my drivers are so traumatised they may not drive HGVs any more, so your "friends" have shown little tolerance in their vicious assaults on my drivers. I cannot agree with Rosiecheeks but I take her point. It is ironic that we are not allowed to defend our men and vehicles but if a stowaway is found the driver is fined several thousand pounds, but of course that would not matter to you or your do gooding brigade.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 12:28pm Rosiecheeks wrote:
I would ban the human rights law and do gooders!!! It's ok for the immigrants to beat up our drivers, traumatized them and damage their lorries AND get away with it. We don't need them over here!!!
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 12:49pm John Smith wrote:
Would you care to define "do gooder" please Rosiecheeks? The trouble with this kind of thinking is that you end up banning yourself. Frankly that wouldn't be such a bad idea. You can take your mates with you.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 12:51pm John Smith wrote:
Would you care to define "do gooder" please Rosiecheeks? The trouble with this kind of thinking is that you end up banning yourself. Frankly that wouldn't be such a bad idea. You can take your mates with you.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 1:01pm Paul Newman wrote:
I think the response of the Conservative Party , which is to accept only a token number of "refugees" has been right . Nothing could be more obvious than that the promise of free welfare would operate as a magnet for economic migration.
All of this stems from the ongoing policy of isolationism which has been caused by the people for whom Iraq was a disaster ( It was actually a success). This it the cost of doing nothing . Same goes for Syria although it was largely a symbolic decision.
Refugees become migrants when they reach Turkey, if they were arriving form Norway in Scotland they would not carry on to Greece would they.
None of that excuses UKIP and its new BNP constituency trying to create a frenzy of Nationalist bigotry. They hope this will , in some dimply understood way , overcome the natural disinclination of the British people to lose their jobs for the sake of a “formal” independence that means virtually nothing .
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 2:08pm trooper wrote:
@ Paul Newman. May I ask what on earth your recent political diatribe has to do with my original and subsequent posts. Typical politico claptrap, offering no aid at all just rhetoric, whilst we continue to try to carry out our work.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 2:27pm Mr Ryder wrote:
Mr Newman doesn't have a clue about politics but regurgitates boring clapped out phrases. He is completely devoid of independent analytical reasoning.
Let's look at your UKIP stance. I would be interested to knows what's 'bigoted' about:
Secession from the EU. Re-introduction of Grammar schools. A points based immigration policy. A well funded, small but effective army and no more foreign interventions. Reduction in foreign aid budget. 12bn extra funding for NHS.
That took me less than 5 minutes to read from their manifesto, I don't support any political party but UKIP certainly are not bigoted however you disagree with them because you are a EU loving, mass immigration supporting economic Thatcherite and Blairite stooge hence why you support the Tory front bench and New labour MP's such as Kendall.
If you knew what the definition of a bigot was you wouldn't use a word that aptly describes your own intolerance towards others opinions.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 3:52pm Onlooker wrote:
My god what a bunch of paranoid racists. Seriously your lives must be terrifying given your low fear threshold.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 5:54pm Belladonna wrote:
I really hope most people have some basic humanity and realise the regugees in Calais are desperate. They are now totally reliant on volunteers and charities for food, clothing and shelter. There are at least 600 unaccompanied children there - many of them toddlers. The French government are doing sweet FA except sending the police in with clubs and pepper spray. It is appalling that so-called civilised nations allow any people to live in this state. The UNHCR cannot go in unless they are asked - and the French government could not possibly admit to that, as one of the richest countries in the world.
It's a disgrace.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 6:18pm Common Sense wrote:
How many 'refugees' have you taken in Belladonna? Been to Calais to volunteer have you?
Rather than preaching to people why don't you go do something to help the economic migrants or do you just expect other people to pay for them while you smugly call people who disagree with you uncivilised.

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On 10 Jan 2016 at 6:30pm Clifford wrote:
I'm sorry, Belladona, but I don't understand what you're saying. Why haven't the people in the Calais camps applied for refugee status in France or in any of the countries they passed through on their way there? A refugee flees because they are in fear of their life - once they reach a place of safety for request asylum. Are you sure you're not talking about economic migrants trying to circumvent the internationally agreed procedures? Queue jumping as its known.
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On 10 Jan 2016 at 6:39pm sid wrote:
WHY THE FUC# WOULD YOU GO TO CALAIS TO HELP THEM .If people have spare time there lots of old and young
here you can help first .
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On 11 Jan 2016 at 11:08pm The Tooth Fairy wrote:
Because Sidney dear boy, Calais is where the compassionate glamour is. Refugees are the flavour of the month, tools to use to heighten ones 'right on' credentials.
A child's lifeless body on a Greek beach, condemned to death by his own wreckless parents, will attract more tears than the British pensioner freezing to death in his own home.
Excellent post young Cliffold. How are you dear boy ?
 
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On 12 Jan 2016 at 7:18pm Belladonna wrote:
Basic humanity and compassion for our fellow humans in trouble - that's what I'm talking about Clifford. Whether they are economic migrants or refugees from war, they are living in appalling conditions. The French should be registering them, but they are not. There are plenty of migrants trekking through Europe to seek asylum in other countries to those in which they first landed (principally Italy, Greece, and non EU Turkey). At the very least The children in 'the jungle' should be taken into local authority care and properly looked after. At the moment two rich countries are ignoring the problem instead of dealing with it in a humanitarian way. And whilst that continues the desperation will grow and the attempts to board lorries and violence festers. It's not a safe place, I agree.
Oh and yes, I have donated clothing, blankets, other goods and money to charities and aid agencies to try and help.
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On 13 Jan 2016 at 4:16am sailor stan wrote:
Charity begins at home Belladonna. All these crap collections do is make the place even more of a magnet and it's about time Britain said "enough" instead of being a doormat. The real truth of the matter is every other country in this crap eu of ours is saying "this way to England, the land of milk and honey and Benefits". Where I work we regularly encounter migrants and it is always young Syrian males. As soon as they get over to uk and start claiming benefits the rest of the family come over to join them. Local residents of Calais are hacked off with being attacked, and of the appalling rate of crime and I'm very superseded that they haven't stood up and protested. All the time the jungle remains people will continue to come and something will snap very soon. We have enough problems in England but then I suppose it's the "in thing" to collect for the poor little luvvies in Calais....
Incidentally the last "migrant" we found in the course of my work was asking for somewhere to charge up his iPad (I kid thee not!). Get our borders back, and let these people know that we are not a free meal ticket. Our country is FULL !


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