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On 30 Sep 2013 at 6:12pm The Old Mayor wrote:
So Balcombe's victorian railway tunnel very nearly collapsed a whistle blowers tells us ! It needs to be inspected more than once a fortnight by oneone with a degree in one hand and a torch in the other they admit. Nothing to do with a certain Transport Minister shoving up the fares ?

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On 30 Sep 2013 at 6:49pm Tunnel vision wrote:
That certain transport minister, I forget his name, as he is completely invisible nowadays, prefers to concentrate his efforts on reopening a line which may be handy, but disappeared 50 years ago. Here is the thing; a sensible person would focus their energies on the priorities, such as ensuring that what we have left is safe. Can it be that hard to understand that?
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On 30 Sep 2013 at 7:23pm Extra wrote:
Old news, reported at the time, tunnel closed, repaired, regularly inspected.
Bad news day for BBC South East Today.
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On 30 Sep 2013 at 9:20pm The Old Mayor wrote:
Thanks for the Norm , er I mean extra !!
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On 1 Oct 2013 at 1:16am tunnel vision wrote:
Pleased to hear that whenever it was , it only took a near miss this significant to get something done about maintenance and safety inspections.
who is this 'Norm' people occasionally mention?
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On 1 Oct 2013 at 7:23am normans wisdom wrote:
There is only one Norm. Norman Baker the finest mp in the land. Ever.
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On 1 Oct 2013 at 2:31pm Sussex Jim wrote:
Rubbish. Let's go back to the days of the Macmillan era- when we never had it so good, and Norman Wisdom- not Norman Baker- was the comedian. And the trains were not regularly replaced by tacky buses.
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On 1 Oct 2013 at 4:50pm ar10642 wrote:
Although, the irony here is that to fix/inspect the tunnel as advised in the report, you'd have to have more buses
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 7:55am Rosalyn st Pierre wrote:
I have been campaigning for the re-opening of the Lewes - Uckfield
Line for years, one issue being the disaster to SE economy if the tunnel was closed for a lengthy time. ESCC is holding a consultation rail strategy, closes on October 4th.
Do take part as Lewes does not feature strongly in the papers and we need a strong voice.
Check it out
Www.eastsussex.gov.uk/your council/consultations
 
 
On 2 Oct 2013 at 8:35am Humbert wrote:
Hi Rosalyn, please can you confirm your position on fracking in the local countryside and whether you agree with your party on it?
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 8:47am Rosalyn St Pierre wrote:
My view was formulated well before any party statements. My view is not in the local countryside for all the reasons I have put before; the proximity to the SD National Park; the Ashdown Forest, the SSSIs and the Ramsah site in Pevensey; the lack of water; the inability of local water treatment plants to deal with fracking wastes; the impact on the road network, and now I could add that seismic activity near Balcombe would further weaken the Tunnel (and that is what this link is about).
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 9:12am not convinced wrote:
surely it would make more economic sense to maintain a tunnel properly than re- building and maintaining a new line 'just in case' ? Especial as building a new line would visibly trash the countryside that may have escaped the effects of fracking?

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On 2 Oct 2013 at 9:31am The Old Mayor wrote:
The phrase 'a kid with a degree in one hand and a torch in the other' being responsible for the safety of 1,000s of lives on a daily basis is quite frightening ! But probably so true, in this case and hundreds of others too. Some of them even work for Quadrilla and their likes.
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 9:56am Casey Jones wrote:
The whistleblower - was it Thomas the tank engine ? I happen to know that inspections are carried out by time served Maintenance Engineers . Any the commuters have to pay because said engineers are kept in their offices for hours by useless , pointless H+S paperwork and nonsense . So the wet behind the ears graduates with the torches are more likely to be employed by the Health and Safety army that we all subsidise .
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 11:47am Sensible wrote:
I suggest you address your claims about H&S to the families of the people who died at Potters Bar. A crash for which Network Rail was fined 3million for safety regulation breaches.
There is a difference between real H&S, and crap that people make up about H&S as an excuse for not wanting to do something or pay for it.
We are talking about a railway system. Railways are very dangerous. Why a tunnel got into a dangerous state is worth enquiry, but it won't be because H&S made whoever is responsible for the tunnel, do something pointless instead- whatever the Daily Mail would like to believe.
Try reading the H&S Executives list of top 10 H&S claims, that were made up, and people were believing.
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 3:41pm geoff wrote:
Could I point out that Potters Bar was Railtrack - the failed privatised company - not Network Rail who had to pay the fine. I also believe that the ironwork that was hanging down in the tunnel was installed by contractor's in Railtrack's day.
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 3:52pm passenger wrote:
all of which is much more likely to be avoided if we follow Health and Safety , rather than diminish H&S with Daily Mail style nonsense about people being required too fill in unnecessary forms.
and the more we check, and avoid problems, the better value we get from that maintenance.
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On 2 Oct 2013 at 6:13pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Well said, Sensible and Passenger. People forget that before H&S legislation, 2 people a week died, on average, in the construction industry alone. Now building site deaths are so rare they make the papers.


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