On 25 Feb 2018 at 1:58am Brands Hatch wrote:
Given that the national speed limit for single carriage roads is 60mph, unless marked otherwise, is it unreasonable me to get frustrated when the person in front pootles along at 38mph, even when it's daylight and the weather conditions are good. On the road from Lewes to Ringmer, I invariably get stuck behind a Honda Jazz (never has a car been so misnamed) and can see the outline of a blue rinse perm in the driver's seat. I don't overtake, but I see others making often dangerous moves and wonder if we should have a recommended minimum speed limit as well as a maximum?
On 25 Feb 2018 at 6:36am Captain Obvious wrote:
40mph is more than acceptable when approaching the village. Unless youíre attempting to wipe out people leaving the Forges, or take out a few of the college kids crossing the road. Whatís the hurry? Slow down and stop risking peopleís lives
On 25 Feb 2018 at 7:40am inthegutter wrote:
That stretch where you can legally go 60 mph is little more than 1 mile before you enter the village and it becomes 40 mph. At best you'd save 30 seconds by going at 40 mph instead of 60 mph. Perhaps let the Honda Jazz drive at 40 mph...
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:17am Nigel wrote:
Brands Hatch. Your attitude and lack of basic driving knowledge is alarming. I suspect you are a serial tailgating bully who trys to intimidate old ladies into making dangerous decisions. It is not a 60 limit that must be stuck at all times and is very different to, say, the 70 limit on a motor way. I would suggest you read the high way code and learn something. These rural roads are the most dangerous of all the roads in the UK thanks to jumped up bullies like yourself. If people of your type tailgate me you will get very annoyed as I slow down, speed up and generally wind you up laugh at you going mental in my mirror. Educate yourself today and do us all a favour. I bet you are the sought who drives past the school in ringmer at 50 'cos I can' and has your fog lights on to look tough. Tw@t.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:19am Ferret wrote:
I agree that it's irritating, especially when they slow down to about 30 for the bends. I wonder about their eyesight and suitability to drive at all. Mind you, it's worse on the A26 Newhaven road. And of course the same driver will drive at 40 even if the speed limit is 30.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:27am Me wrote:
OP sad trolling going on here. Trying to justify your tailgating and dangerous overtakes are we? Hope you get done soon as you are the scourge of the country roads round here
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:28am Ferret wrote:
You are jumping to a lot of conclusions. If you don't feel comfortable driving at a speed suitable for the road, which is 60 on many two lane country roads (not narrow lanes which should have a 40mph limit), you shouldn't be driving. And breaking the speed limit is always wrong, especially in 30mph zones.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:30am Gus wrote:
60 is far too high a speed on country roads, which often have twists and turns so that you can't see far enough ahead of you. Don't be so impatient, and overtake when/if it is safe to do so.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:43am @Captain Obvious wrote:
Both the sections of road you refer to are 30mph. You should not be doing 40 at the Forges or past the school.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 9:49am @Gus wrote:
Some "country roads" are not safe at more than 30mph (tragic Harveys Lane, for example), whereas some, like the A26 Beddingham to Newhaven are ok at 60 in most conditions. Isn't it time there was some fine tuning locally? there has been in many other areas.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 10:04am We'vehadourfun wrote:
The council won't even discuss the dangerous 60 limits. They stated that no review is needed until there is a fatality. Now that's customer service!
On 25 Feb 2018 at 10:22am Brands Hatch wrote:
@Nigel - Get off your high horse and stop making assumptions. First, I do not tailgate people - I always leave a good stopping distance because I've had people go into the back of me three times and it's not nice. Second, I wouldn't dream of speeding through a residential area and drive well below the 30mph limit if lots of schoolchildren are around. I also don't do 60 on country roads if they are windy and the weather is poor. But I don't see why anyone has a problem doing 45-50 on the road to Ringmer. If people do under 40, they create tailbacks and quite a few of the accidents are caused by people overtaking when they shouldn't. All I'm asking for is a little awareness about suitable speeds - if you can't drive at 45mph on a B road on a sunny, quiet day, perhaps you shouldn't be driving at all.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 10:35am Nigel wrote:
Your trying to force you will on others and that is the problem with your attitude which will reflect in your aggressive driving.The fact that you have to re post saying how careful a driver you are after admitting your an impatient tw@t speaks volumes.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 10:53am Brands Hatch wrote:
@Nigel - And isn't someone driving well below the accepted speed limit also forcing their will on others? When you see five cars stuck behind one person doing 35 in a 60 zone, whose will is being imposed? I didn't talk about my driving in the first post because I didn't realise that people would jump so quickly to false conclusions. I have a smart box fitted in my car that measures speed, acceleration and braking and the score is always good, so don't make such lazy assumptions without any evidence.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 10:58am Nigel wrote:
If you can see the hair colour of the person in front you are tailgating. No amount of backtracking will get you out of your stupid post. Learn to be a considerate driver and read the highway code about rural roads.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 11:01am Nigel wrote:
And you name ' brands hatch' really implies what a careful driver you are! You just think all rural roads are you private race track.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 11:02am @Nigel wrote:
The fact that you can't see how reasonable Brands Hatch is being speaks volumes about your aggressive attitude. And the need to resort to personal abuse. It is just as thoughtless and selfish to drive too slowly on a safe road as it is to drive too fast or too close. Try doing it with a police car behind. I know two people who have been pulled over and spoken to for just that.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 11:18am Brands Hatch wrote:
@Nigel - You've obviously got a bee in your bonnet, but try thinking first. You're determined to be in the right, even though you have no evidence. Are we to take all user names literally? Do you never get closer to the car in front when you're both queuing at a junction?
On 25 Feb 2018 at 11:24am Staying in wrote:
Oh dear 'brands hatch'. Not going well for you is it!
On 25 Feb 2018 at 11:27am @ Nigel wrote:
Your sort of opinion is neither sought, nor valued. You are just another Lewes illiteratus. Kind regards.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 11:40am Mavis wrote:
Reminds me of the old joke about the old couple poodle-ling along in their car on a Sunday and they say to each other the roads lovely and clear today dear. But behind them is a mile mile tailback. !!
On 25 Feb 2018 at 12:00pm Chocks away wrote:
Why not learn to fly a paraglider. You can go as fast as you dare (subject to wind speeds and weather) and you are unlikely to get stuck behind anyone, if you do then you can simply go around.
Alternatively you could take airplane or helicopter flying lessons at Shoreham airport. There are other options like the train, the bus, walking or cycling if driving frustrates you or even gardening helps with stress relief.
Not really fair to take it out on other people just because you are in a rush or feel an anxious because you didn't allow enough time for your journey. Why are you in such a rush anyway?
On 25 Feb 2018 at 12:08pm Brands Hatch wrote:
@Chocks away - But I'm not in a hurry. I just like to drive at a normal speed so that I can spend more time outside the car than in it. 50mph is not Warp Factor 9.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 12:26pm We'vehadourfun wrote:
Are there really that many Honda jazz cars on that road?
On 25 Feb 2018 at 12:47pm @weve had our fun wrote:
There's only 1 jazz but it drives so slowly that A LOT of people are stuck behind it.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 5:06pm SHS wrote:
@Brands Hatch I do sometimes quietly wonder about possible 'silent killers' - those that drive so slowly (in safe clear situations) or stupidly that it raises the blood pressure and ultimately shortens the life of others on the road. The solution I suggest is to imagine the Jazz driver you refer to is your grandmother, or your girlfriend's grandmother, or even a girl who has only just passed the test and is thus very nervous. Then you can hold back, breath deeply and try to keep calm. Look at the bigger picture, maybe you'll be a slow driver one day.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 5:15pm Marco wrote:
Do as I do and ride a motorcycle, you donít get involved in all this @rap you just whisk past and get on with your day. So much easier and riding bikes is fun as well!
On 25 Feb 2018 at 5:43pm @marco wrote:
Until an idiot like brands Hatch does an illegal or dangerous, impatient overtake and kills you.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 6:05pm Pedro wrote:
Of all the things to complain about on roads....slow drivers are probably among the least significant (unless its hugely dangerous, but going 38mph on a short and hilled single carriageway is neither particularly dangerous, and barely inconvenient).
Tailgaters, speeders and mobile phone users are infinitely more thread-worthy.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 6:44pm Brands Hatch wrote:
To the person who replied to Marco, if you'd read the thread properly, you'd have seen that I pointed out that I don't overtake or tailgate. I am talking about driving at a safe, normal speed.
On 25 Feb 2018 at 6:54pm MG wrote:
A speed limit is a maximum permitted speed under ideal conditions. It is not a target to be aimed for. Anyone is entitled to travel below the limit at whatever speed they feel appropriate, and nobody else is entitled to criticise them for that. If you find yourself behind one, just sigh, take a deep breath, and follow patiently until there is a sensible moment to overtake.