On 15 Sep 2011 at 11:38pm Pesh wrote:
I've recently moved to a new house in Lewes (rented) and all ready had complaints from the neighbours. I have been a Lewes resident now for over 18 years, and since moving out of my parents house have repeatedly suffered complaints from my neighbours, from noise complaints at 8.30 in the evening, (a perfectly reasonably time to be making noise) to being told that i cant smoke a cigarette outside my front door as it comes through their bathroom window, (close your bl**dy window) now in my current residence i have been told by the Council that we can't use our flat roof as a terrace because, you guessed it, a neighbour complained. These neighbours (they may or may not be the same ones) also complain about the pub round the corner being to noisy. If you want peace and quiet, buy a bloody house in the country, its probably much cheaper. Most people seem to think that because Lewes is small its also quiet. This is not true, people raise families, they grow up, move out and from time to time make noise. Deal with it. Your complaining has ruined my day and I will be appealing this flat roof/terrace shenanigan to the LDC.
Thanks for reading if you did.
If you don't like or agree with anything i said its my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
I know my punctuation is less than standard but I don't care.
To whoever complained about my roof... I hope you get hit by a bus.
Enjoy the weekend.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 12:47am A normal person wrote:
Well, you sound like a right selfish tool, don't you?
If a kid goes to bed at 8.00 and you're making a racket next door half an hour later, then it's not reasonable. Reasonable means taking other people into consideration.
Smoking is a fookin horrible habit, so why should other people block out your smoke when you could do it yourself by smoking in your own horrible little environment and keeping it to yourself.
Outside elevated spaces usually require planning permission to be used as leisure areas, mainly because they have the potential to overlook, invade privacy and cause nuisance to others. Good luck with your next rant to the Council on this.
So whilst your neighbours complaining might have spoiled your day, your behaviour probably spoils their every day. Grow up.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 2:11am expat two wrote:
A demand for silence at 8.30 is excessive, as is the demand that you do not smoke outside your own home (presumably still on your own property?). I wouldn't complain about either. Some people have an overly selfish expectation of other people's behaviour though, but I don't think that's and exclusively Lewes thing.
The flat roof issue is a bit more complicated, that is subject to planning and if it doesn't have access and edge protection,its best left unused in that way.
One thing that really annoys me though, is people who complain about pubs being noisy, that just gets right up my goat.
Just ignore that other idiot's post, he's a regular troller who uses multiple identities to hide behind when insulting posters.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 2:39am A normal person wrote:
But a 'troll' with whom you partly agree, by the look of it. And for your info, that was my first post on this forum, provoked by such an outrageously selfish approach to the poor sod's neighbours. Does he not twig that perhaps - after years of complaints - that he's the one n the wrong?
By the way, you can stick your insult 'right up your goat' too, whatever that means.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 8:04am Clifford wrote:
Have you wondered, Pesh, why you seem to have had so much trouble since you stopped living with your parents?
On 16 Sep 2011 at 8:12am DFL wrote:
Well, I sort of agree with you Pesh, apart from the bus running over people bit. However, may pay to find out if the neighbours have young kids that go to bed early, otherwise, 8:30 seems reasonable to me. As for smoking outside, well, that seems OK, if a bit unfortunate that it goes in next door's window, probably better if you gave it up altogether though. Pax Vobiscum.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 10:46am Clowsie wrote:
Out of interest which Pub is it?
On 16 Sep 2011 at 11:27am jrsussex wrote:
Reasonable levels of noise emanting from a private dwelling at 8.30pm is not unreasonable and smoking (I am a non-smoker and hate the habit) outside your own property is also not unreasonable.
If you smoke inside your house and there are children present you are damned and this complainant wants to damn you for going outside.
And Expat Two is absolutely correct, if you do not like the noise of a public house interfering with your life then why on earth purchase/rent a dwelling near to one. Generally speaking these people are aware of the pub being there when they purchase/rent the property.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 11:32am Yawn.... wrote:
If it's just a normal flat roof it's not been designed in the expectation that people will use it to socialise on and so it would not be a surprise to find a neighbours window very close to it (very possibly for a young child's bedroom). You don't know how much noise he makes either. He could be up there with his mates, drinking, shouting, swearing, playing music.
As for smoking. expat 2, what you say is plainly silly:
"is excessive, as is the demand that you do not smoke outside your own home (presumably still on your own property?)." To answer you in your own terms. It's not his property and his smoke is entering someone else's property. See? Ridiculous. What is certain is that he should have some consideration and move away from his neighbours window.
When people live cheek by jowl in a town such as this we all have to be considerate and have a common understanding of what is tolerable and what is not.
He sounds selfish, self-centered and unwilling to understand his neighbour's disquiet, possibly a neighbour from hell. I'm very glad he does not live next door to me.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 12:06pm Angry wrote:
You should try living next to my neighbour. She has 8 dogs and 6 cats and undertakes dawn patrols collecting their mess before tossing it over the fence into the road. Now that is bad!
On 16 Sep 2011 at 1:18pm DFL wrote:
Angry - that should be reported to the environment people, I'm sure they'd do something about your neighbour's "habits".
On 16 Sep 2011 at 1:32pm Angry wrote:
DFL - I haven't been able to get anyone interested thus far. I have also tried animal control. It is probably because I live in a rural area just outside Lewes rather than in the town where the problem would affect more people.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 1:40pm Another layabout wrote:
Pesh............from one ignorant pig to another, if we want to live in a stye paid for by normal taxpaying individuals we should be able to.
Just because we are too thick to get a job we should be pitied rather than blamed and our benefit money increased to pay for all the aggro we suffer.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 3:26pm expat two wrote:
If he rents his home, its still the same. It certainly isn't his neighbour's property. If it was a wisp of bonfire smoke drifting over, would that be any different?
Its a matter of living & let live. I'm not a smoker either, but if smoke drifted into my bathroom window, I wouldn't complain about it, thats just too petty for words, and I suspect that's the point Pesh is making.
"When people live cheek by jowl in a town such as this we all have to be considerate and have a common understanding of what is tolerable and what is not.
He sounds selfish, self-centered and unwilling to understand his neighbour's disquiet, possibly a neighbour from hell. I'm very glad he does not live next door to me."
Who are you talking about, Pesh or his neighbour? Maybe I'm being petulant, but complaining about someone smoking outside his own home or making a noise at 8.30pm is, in my view, the intolerant neighbour from hell, and I'm glad he doesn't live next door to me.
On 16 Sep 2011 at 5:45pm Decent Citizen wrote:
Try living next to someone who thinks it is ok to smoke outside your living room window,play a radio at full volume,again, outside your living room window,and tell me this is acceptable! A bit of old fashioned respect for others is needed here. You,whoever you are, could walk a little way surely, away from the bathroom window? What noise are we talking 8.30pm? Hammering,extremely high volume of music,shouting,etc?Live and let live by all means but, a bit of old fashioned decency for your neighbours goes a long way. I would much rather someone came to me and said"going to be a bit noisy,visitors etc" than the cavalier attitude of up yours!
On 16 Sep 2011 at 5:54pm Pesh wrote:
Read My Reply Fool
On 16 Sep 2011 at 6:29pm Decent Citizen wrote:
PESH,you sound like everyone's worst nightmare.More than one complaint in my book, classes YOU as a pain in the arse! My God, your parents must be rejoicing you have left home,I know I would! Me, a fool? I do not think so,lived longer than you,seen it all!
On 16 Sep 2011 at 8:13pm Peter Byron wrote:
In my experience the neighbours who complain loudest are those whose lives are rather dull, in some cases they are in personal relationships that are not going well and therefore look to the neighbours to vent bitterness. I have always tolerated my neighbours, be they noisy, crazy or just odd, live and let live folks, we are only here for a while remeber. Best, Peter
On 16 Sep 2011 at 9:12pm Castle Gate wrote:
Six of one and half a dozen of the other, isn't it? The neighbour complaining has a duty (in my opinion) to explain the reasons for the complaint, and allow the person complained about to enjoy noisy entertainment and smoking in ways which suit both parties.
Neighbours are unavoidable; compromise is necessary.
When I once locked my bicycle to a neighbour's railings in London, he complained: but pointed out that it was a lot easier to put cutters through his soft iron railings (which weren't mine to lock a bike to, anyway) than through my tough steel lock hoop. A rational rant; a complaint understood.
There are often two sides, and they can meet in the middle (or at the Lewes Arms).
On 17 Sep 2011 at 8:45pm Decent Citizen wrote:
jr sussex. A point forgotten by many, is that there are people who bought,rented or whatever ,a long time before pub licencing hours changed,smokers were driven into the streets etc. On neighbours.On having a get together, party or whatever in the summer in my garden,I invited those nearest,warned others, and guess what? I never got a complaint! It really is a matter of old fashioned courtesy,a little thought for those with kids getting up for school, or people in from work needing a bit of peace! and just really thinking to yourself,on a warm evening ,I could go down to the Convent Field, the bit BEFORE Stanley Towner ground,"no neighbours". Malling playing fields,again, far enough away from human habitation! The music of your choice does not need to be at deafening levels. I know, I did it as a youngster,pissed nobody off, and had a great time.Cleared up after ourselves of course , it goes without saying.
On 20 Sep 2011 at 8:11pm Peter Byron wrote:
In Ireland the next Goverment (SF) are intent on reversing the smoking ban and getting all the traditional pubs up and running again. FACT. May move there when it happens (yes, to the delight of many ha ha) Best, Peter
On 24 Sep 2011 at 7:59pm pesh=idiot wrote:
You selfishi jobless pr|ck - here's hoping you eventually live next door to a poo tosser - what great comeuppance.
Loud music at any time is not acceptable in high density living. Your disgusting habit - smoking - is affecting your neighbours. Why not stay inside and smoke?
Use of roof as a terrace - they're entitled to privacy and quiet enjoyment - suddenly you appear looking down into their windows/garden and you get miffed 'cos they complain.
I love the fact that you think their complaining has ruined your day - you clearly are the problem and it's a sad reflection on your parents that you have been brought up to be so selfish.
And your comment about hoping the complainant gets run over by a bus demonstrates a complete lack of maturity - sad, sad individual. I'm glad I don't live anywhere near you...
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