On 5 Nov 2017 at 11:03pm Harry wrote:
11pm and the stripey jumpered morons are still setting off bangers.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 7:04am Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
Maybe you should move up to the Nevill, it was lovely and quiet up here last night.
There's always been a lot of fireworks the day after bonfire. A lot of bonfire people have jobs to do on the night and the following day is when they let their hair down and have some fun.
Bonfire is a big part of Lewes life and I really fail to understand why people move here and then moan about it. It's like buying a house next to a pub and then moaning about the noise.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 7:15am Jack wrote:
Last night was the 5th
On 6 Nov 2017 at 8:11am Moaner wrote:
I was born here and grew up here (and Iím getting old so have probably lived here longer than most of you). I moan about bonfire too though. Not everybody who lives here enjoys it and the assumption that people who donít like it must have moved here recently just isnít accurate.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 8:35am Donald wrote:
I'd hazard a guess it's also teams clearing the firesites of anything that didn't go off on the 4th.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 8:44am maureen wrote:
Have people really no idea. Bonfire lies at the heart of Lewes. It's unlike (for how long) those communities taken over by the nouveau riche, whose money then sanitises them and squeezes all vitality out of them. This has happened and continues to happen like a great wave across London 'villages' and also many 'desirable' towns usually situated in the home counties.
Lewes is at a tipping point and the bonfire societies are managing to hang on to its realness. They involve young people in a sense of history and enable them to learn commitment, discipline a sense of purpose and of place. As well as mutual respect and loyalty. Long may they last.
I think some people are incapable of recognising rare magic. You can can spend millions on housing and chattels but it is harder here to massage your surrounding community to suit yourself.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 9:04am Harry wrote:
Why do others assume that non bonfire lovers are from out of town? I have lived here all my life. Bonfire night was the 4th this year. Not the 5th. But some idiots want 2 bonfire nights an had an ad hoc procession last night with a bonfire in the street.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 9:39am Why Harry Why? wrote:
Why are you so offensive Harry? Is anyone letting off fireworks on Bonfire or the 5th a moron? Or an idiot?
If you've really lived in Lewes all your life you know what will happen! If it offends/upsets you so deeply, there's a Premier Inn in Brighton that's reasonable for B&B.....
On 6 Nov 2017 at 9:48am Pedro wrote:
I really don't get the fuss about fireworks or the same annual processions that when you've seen it once, and you've basically seen it all (unless perhaps you have the memory of a goldfish and need constant reminding). Its amusing to watch the animal behaviour of fellow homosapiens though when they see a big fire, or silly fireworks explode in the sky...."oooooo", followed by "ahhhhhhh", then maybe a "woooooooooow". Quite curiously primitive, and I can understand why people get into anthropology.
Perhaps next year they can burn up a few sacks of cannabis at one of the bonfire sites, I'd be happy to come and breathe in the atmosphere.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 9:51am Deja Vu wrote:
I do find it ridiculous that people think that someone shouldn't move to Lewes if they don't find the bonfire appealing.
I seriously doubt anyone is thinking of the bonfire when they decide to move to Lewes, more likely to be location, town infrastructure, price and property size.
Lucky really, Lewes property prices would crash if only Bonfire society members could live in them.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 10:00am Why Harry Why? wrote:
Its not about people shouldnt move to Lewes, but that if they do they have to accept what happens in Lewes. And on 5th November (or 4th occasionally, as decreed by Gregor)Bonfire happens. It has for longer than any of us know & will continue probaly when we are all long gone.
I recall similar scenario when, as a teenager, i was ploughing a field next to a recently built small estate of houses (not Lewes). I was threatened with having the police called on me as i was making too much noises & dust with my tractor....Er hello? Don't buy a house next to a farm if you have an aversion to tractors. And if it wasn't in your thoughts when you did buy aforementioned dwelling (with 'Beautiful rural views'!!) don't bloody moan when a farmer tries & tends to his land!
On 6 Nov 2017 at 10:01am Why Harry Why? wrote:
Oh and before the rants, i have a disclosure: I am not nor ever have been a Bonfire member...
On 6 Nov 2017 at 10:33am Deja Vu wrote:
"they have to accept what happens in Lewes"
Yes you're correct they have to accept it, it's happening anyway.
And you have to accept them moaning about it, it's happening anyway.
But as I clearly said people moaning about the bonfire in a bonfire town isn't what I find ridiculous, it's ridiculous that some of you actually think that people moving to Lewes gave more than a seconds thoughts to Nov 5th in their house buying decision (a lot of people couldn't give a hoot either way).
On 6 Nov 2017 at 11:40am Penguin wrote:
@Pedro. You clearly donít understand the concept of a tradition. It generally does involve doing the same thing every year. Do you celebrate Christmas, or Easter, or even pancake day come to that? These are the same every year, as are trooping the colour, rememberance sunday, and motherís day.
Having said that, there are differences from year to year in Bonfire, there are always new costumes, different visiting societies, different tableaux, different fireworks, but at the heart of it the same traditions are celebrated.
May I ask what you did on Bonfire night?
On 6 Nov 2017 at 12:17pm Pedro wrote:
@ Penguin. I'm not particularly into overly commercialised traditions anyway (especially christmas). I acknowledge them (sometimes), just as I do with bonfire night, but it all has become rather trivial and repetitive. I get it, some people might love (and live for) it, but I just don't see the fuss. I'm not calling for it to be banned, I'm just giving my honest assessment of it.
I stayed in at home this bonfire night (4th and 5th), and watched some telly and comforted our anxious cat who wasn't overly keen on the noise outside. I've watched the "parades" and been to the bonfire/fireworks bits in previous years, but I was quite happy to give it a miss this year, as its nothing new. Costumes are largely the same, give or take some minor modifications. Fireworks are fireworks and ultimately the same as well, and fire is fire. They have a new effigy usually, but one can usually see that from the thousands of photos uploaded by wannabe-journalists within minutes on various social media platforms, who thrive on the attention and irrelevant re-tweets/likes they receive.
It doesn't bother me that it exists, but I've seen it all before, and my curiosity merely extends to the human behaviour around it. Please, don't shoot me for that.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 1:08pm Annette Curtin-Twitcher wrote:
But it is silly to moan about it, in the same way as it's silly to move to the country and moan about cockerels crowing and the smell of muckspreading.
I'd feel just the same about someone who bought a house in Notting Hill and complained about carnival, or Hastings and complained about Jack in the Green.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 2:04pm Deja Vu wrote:
The countryside is the countryside all year, Lewes is normal 51 weeks a year, so it's not a fair comparison.
All I am saying is I doubt anyone moves to Lewes due to the Bonfire, I doubt anyone doesn't move here due to the bonfire too.
Let them moan, their opinion is perfectly valid.
I expect plenty of people that live on the carnival route have a damn good moan about that too.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 4:41pm Regular wrote:
Ignore Pedro. He is a troll and just trying to bait real Lewesians and Lewes traditions. He sounds like bit of a sad git to be honest.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 7:05pm Pedro wrote:
@ regular. No need to feel threatened or insulted by my comments. I made it very clear I am not wanting to rid Lewes of its bonfire traditions, just that I don't see the fuss with it. I'm sure there are plenty of DFLs, who rather enjoy bonfire night though, not just "born n bred" Lewesians.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 8:00pm Dronerthon wrote:
Blimey, you don't half waffle on about nothing.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 8:07pm Sussex Jim wrote:
Pedro, my daughter has a degree in Anthropology. I might e-mail her and suggest that she and her social circle read your posts. She lives in east London; and a few years ago visited with an invited Samba band to join the grand procession. They know all about the Sussex tradition of Bonfire.
Why do you not get out more, instead of sitting at home with your cat?
On 6 Nov 2017 at 8:57pm Pedro wrote:
@ Sussex Jim, I'd be happy for your daughter to follow my posts on here. I'd be interested in how she found her fathers online behaviour as well.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 9:12pm Hyena wrote:
P, I would suggest that your cats anxiety has nothing to do with loud fireworks and everything to do with its passive weed consumption.
On 6 Nov 2017 at 9:30pm Pedro wrote:
@ Hyena, hardy har, it actually ended chilling her out - and giving her the munchies. Report me to the RSPCA!
On 7 Nov 2017 at 6:01am Fat@live.co.uk wrote:
Munchies? What does she do, have a Mars bar? or maybe pop out and attempt to catch a mouse?
I would suggest some catnip.
On 7 Nov 2017 at 1:35pm Pedro wrote:
She snorts catnip already. This is the issue of raising a cat or anyone else in a drug den.
On 7 Nov 2017 at 2:10pm Relative of addict wrote:
Glad you find it funny
On 7 Nov 2017 at 2:39pm Pedro wrote:
@ "Relative of addict" - I'm clearly joking, I shouldn't even bother to acknowledge your troll-attempt post, but its a quiet day today. Your faux over-sensitivity is quite transparent.
On 7 Nov 2017 at 5:12pm Son of alcoholic wrote:
Yes it's relatively funny, jokes about drugs are as funny as alcoholic being legal and no one objects to that.
On 8 Nov 2017 at 11:22pm Boring wrote:
How about stop moaning you boring old sod?
On 8 Nov 2017 at 11:24pm Boring wrote:
Pedro you are a right twonk