Not enough PPE

On Mon at 08:01pm tractorboy81 wrote:
Itís a disgrace that there isnít enough PPE for the NHS they are the ones that need it the most.
I work for Royal Mail not in Lewes and we have no sanitizer no gloves no masks and no bacterial wipes and we are classed as key workers, ours is more down to the business and not the government.
On Mon at 08:28pm Sleeveless wrote:
According to the WHO there is a global shortage of PPE.
On Mon at 11:41pm Tom Pain wrote:
Wish I knew what ppe is, it's obviously not what I think.
On Tue at 12:14am Local99 wrote:
Perhaps the NHS should've stocked up? It's not run by the government, it's run by it's management.
On Tue at 07:36am Sleeveless wrote:
You mean panic buying, Local99
On Tue at 07:37am David Stanley wrote:
One of the responsibilities of self employed tradespeople is their own ppe. I've been able to share some of my supplies with friends and family. It's surprising to me how Doctors who earn many times what I do have not invested in supplies for themselves or their lower paid staff. Were they scared of being teased as doomsday preppers? Maybe it's just too mundane an issue?

On Tue at 08:27am Stephen Watson wrote:
Tom, PPE in this context is Personal Protective Equipment (not the University course popular with would-be politicians).

One of the lessons of this saga is that neither Britain nor the world was ready for what was actually a completely forseeable and foreseen crisis. The UK actually ran an exercise on this in 2016, but the report on lesson learned/actions required seems to have been shoved to the back of ministerial drawers - everyone was fixated on Brexit, if you remember. There's an excellent and prophetic 2015 TED talk by Bill Gates called "The next outbreak? We're not read" (see link.)

What will this change?

On Sun at 09:52pm Stephen Watson wrote:
When the COVID-19 crisis is over, will things get back to normal? What is normal anyway? What changes, if any, will you make to your habits or lifestyle afterwards? And what permanent social or economic changes do you think might result from this episode?
On Sun at 10:31pm Basil wrote:
What changes? None. The combination of the education system and the media (it used to be the church, but we've moved on) ensures people do what they are told and allow a system that exists for the benefit of the 1% of owners persists.
On Sun at 11:00pm Tom Pain wrote:
Pretty much it Bas, maybe more severe. The economic impact will be biggest, large corporations will swallow up small businesses that can't afford weeks without income.
On Mon at 07:20am Hyena wrote:
TP, I look forward to Unileverís take over of Billís.
On Mon at 07:23am Sleeveless wrote:
Tom, there are of course, some small businesses, light on the feet, who have adapted and are currently thriving.
On Mon at 10:23am Nevillman wrote:
A lot will depend on how long the lockdown goes on for as this will determine the state of the economy. It would be nice to think that we will value people differently but I think that basil is right and the system will go back to disproportionately rewarding CEOs and finance. I'm not sure what anyone can do about it and with the current government there is unlikely to be a very progressive income tax introduced which would help equalise incomes.

It could well be that there will be a dose of inflation as money is printed to pay for it. This will redistribute income from savers (often the older people) to borrowers (usually younger) and while I am not looking forward to seeing my personal retirement nest egg wiped out, there is a certain justice in it.

The crisis will only be over when there is a vaccine. I think it is likely that before too long people will be allowed to go back to work and the virus will be allowed to rip through the working population. The vulnerable will be expected to continue with their lockdown. I would hope that a number of businesses develop or emerge to meet their needs.
On Mon at 06:42pm Mark wrote:
It might, possibly, end the shift towards neo-liberalism. This is the pattern. There's a major crisis, a threat and ordinary, working people sort it out -whilst the Richard Bransons amongst us just whine for government handouts. This was how we got the homes for heroes, the garden cities, the NHS.
On Mon at 10:40pm Basil wrote:
Don't often agree with you Mark, but you're spot on there... apart from Lloyd' George's promise of 'homes for heroes'.
On Mon at 11:08pm Nevillman wrote:
Fly in the ointment of the end of neo liberalism argument is that we will still have to lose our current favourable trading terms with the EU and in desperation have to turn to the US for a trading agreement. No sign of them becoming less neo liberal and thus being prepared to forgo the chance to insist on further neo liberal measures as a price for the UK to pay. Cue basil and his neo liberal EU project mantra. How about instead of just repeating it basil you provide some evidence for it.
On Tue at 07:38am Sleeveless wrote:
Hey Nevillman, thought you might like to know that your mate on Lewes Present has been hacked.

The Gods of commerce must be propitiated.

On Sun at 04:51pm Nanook of the North wrote:
The story recurs in nearly every mythological system: Agamemnon sacrificed his daughter Iphigenia to guarantee good winds to sail to the battle of Troy; human sacrifice was an integral part of Aztec religious rituals; Christians hold that Jesus of Nazareth died for the sins of all mankind. In each case, we see the hallmarks of religious sacrifice: Give up the lives of a few to rebalance society.The old and the vulnerable will be offered up to our new Gods.

On Sun at 05:07pm Tom Pain wrote:
The idea of self sacrifice is a little different from sacrificing someone else. Shouldn't this post be categorized under religion rather than politics, perhaps a new colour, webbo?
On Sun at 06:41pm David Stanley wrote:
The article is behind a paywall unfortunately but I agree that Mammon is the deity who rules over us, along with Moloch of course....but that's another story.