On 18 May 2017 at 2:53pm Fairmeadow wrote:
7.30 pm, King's Church Building, Brooks Road
The Conservative, Liberal Democrat and Labour candidates have all confirmed their attendance.
Apparently the only hustings in Lewes for this election, and all three manifestos now published.
See you there.
On 18 May 2017 at 3:38pm Maria Cauliflower wrote:
Bring plenty of cheese.
On 18 May 2017 at 4:00pm Fusting Hell wrote:
I'm staying in if it's raining
On 18 May 2017 at 4:10pm The Old Mayor wrote:
I've already made my mind up, just be you floaters there !!
On 18 May 2017 at 10:33pm Sylvia wrote:
I couldn't get there, can anyone who did, give a debrief on how it went?
On 18 May 2017 at 10:59pm Newms wrote:
I just got back Fairmeadow , I wonder which one you were.
On one crucial point Maria Caulfield must be ‘misinformed’ . She told a crowd who , for the most part , would have been cowed by her confidence that the WTO had a tariff free period between the EU and UK . This is rubbish The only way for such a deal to be legal under WTO rules is if the EU and the UK have signed a trade deal. Otherwise if we drop out tariffs to the EU we have to drop them for everyone (which is the point of the WTO).In other words a WTO arrangement , bad as it is , is itself contingent on a deal with the EU and good relations .
She also implied a transition deal .No such deal is in her gift to give, we get to beg, that’s it . If we fall out the EU without an deal , we will face a crisis of South American proportions
Money will not be able to move, goods will be stuck on ports contracts lost and god knows where we go from there in a country now accustomed to blaming immigrants for everything .
On 18 May 2017 at 11:14pm Fairmeadow wrote:
Star performer was, in my opinion, the Labour candidate, who was was very clear, reasonable, cogent and well informed. Some of the Labour manifesto promises seemed very popular with voters of all complexions, especially renationalising the railways and water companies.
Maria Caulfield came across as a nice person, former MacMillan nurse, in politics for the right reasons, well on top of her brief and a very long way from a traditional Tory. She has obviously learned a lot and made something of an impact in her two years as MP. She picked as her main achievement her work with the local Citizens Advice Bureau that persuaded the Chancellor to promise to abolish letting agent fees. Not exactly a traditional Tory policy area. As a CAB volunteer, I believe this claim to be true.
Kelly-Marie Blundell came across to me as by far the least credible of the three. But if you are desperate to remain in the EU at all costs, support CND, want to abolish nuclear power, and think Britain should admit a minimum of 100,000 Syrian refugees next year, she is your candidate. It was very noticeable that the assembled party faithful, who initially exploded into applause every time she spoke, quickly lost heart.
Kelly-Marie tried to play the "I'm the only constituency resident" card. Unfortunately it turned out that she stood in Guilford, where she then lived, in 2015, so has only just moved to Seaford. Both the other candidates are long-term Sussex residents from challenging family backgrounds who now live on the edges of Brighton.
On 18 May 2017 at 11:24pm Sensible wrote:
Only the Conservative Party candidate, Miss Caulfield, consistently presented policies and options that encourage wealth creation, the freedom to operate my business without nanny state control, and safeguard the rights of the British people against the scrounging, lying Left. With thousands of voters switching to the Conservative Party every day in this constituency, and with the UKIP giving their votes to us, there is no alternative to the Conservative Party. For Labour and the Liberal Democrats in Lewes, the race is lost, with their reward being public humiliation, which I shall laugh at.
On 19 May 2017 at 12:18am Tim wrote:
Masterful performance by Maria. She made the others look pathetic and a laughing stock. I can see a five figure majority looming.
On 19 May 2017 at 1:02am Newms wrote:
Fair meadow if you would rather be poor isolated and irrelevant just to get rid of the smell of foreign food then Ms Caulfield will be your choice. I cannot say I am impressed.
The Labour candidate had the luxury of being irrelevant said nothing of any substance and kindly explained he was only running so the actual members if the Labour Party had someone to vote for . Perhaps you were taking a nap at that point .
Refugees are a miniscule issue one way or another . I`m not a hand wringer but I would far rather hear an instinct for open Britain than a sly dog whistle racist pandering to ill-informed bigots and liars. I am disappointed to hear this sort of thing from you, I can read the Daily Mail for myself .
Maria Caulfield is well rehearsed in swapping nonsense but on the one structural issue of the night she either told an outright lie or has no idea what she is talking about . There is no WTO safety net and no amount of gesture politics will get anyone`s job back . If you would like I will explain
On nuclear disarmament, no I do not agree with KM on that ( and nor does her Party) but those of us who oppose the madness must decide on our priorities. Yours seem to be what I can only call ” lack of virtue signalling “
On 19 May 2017 at 1:15am Hyena wrote:
@Fairmeadow. Define a challenging family background.
On 19 May 2017 at 6:43am Martin S wrote:
Fairmeadow's account of last nights hustings is very accurate.
I have to be honest and say that as someone who was considering voting Lib Dem, last nights performance by Miss Blundell has convinced me otherwise.
She really looked, way out of her depth.
I was also impressed with miss Caulfield who was really the only creditable candidate on the panel.
On 19 May 2017 at 7:10am Englishman wrote:
There is no way I would vote for Miss Blundell since reading the communication her party put through my door. In it she deliberately lied by saying that Miss Caulfield had not been accessible to her electorate- which is simply not true.
On 19 May 2017 at 7:17am Plebian wrote:
If I was a candidate I would focus my campaign in Newhaven and Seaford. Lewes people who talk about politics tend to be left liberal,Tories are shy.
On 19 May 2017 at 8:58am bobobob wrote:
^^ Shy tories?
Lib dems seem to have been going backwards here and a lot of other places while Labour seem to be getting a bit stronger. Counts for nothing here but good to see it happening.
Englishman - doesn't she ban anyone posting anything that isn't supportive on her social media accounts? Doesn't sound like the most accessible MP in this day and age
On 19 May 2017 at 9:24am The Greek wrote:
Yep I got banned for asking her about disability benefit cuts that she voted for.
On 19 May 2017 at 9:30am Maria Cauliflower wrote:
Where was my cheese?
On 19 May 2017 at 10:00am Jeff wrote:
Lots of new 'never seen before' posters in this thread.
That's curious isn't it?
On 19 May 2017 at 10:23am Zzzzz........ wrote:
Plebian... It's not that Tories are shy, it's that many are embarrassed by their own selfishness.
On 19 May 2017 at 11:17am endoftheouse wrote:
Two blaah blaah posts from Newms about the Lewes Hustings but he doesn't seem to have too many favourable words on the performance of KMB. I'm guessing he will soon be applying for the ginger whinger's position.
On 19 May 2017 at 11:29am Pollster wrote:
The Tories are getting desperate, new Youtube offensive launched today and hundreds of fake social media accounts sprung up overnight. Labour are making huge gains with each poll released (8% gain over the weekend per one poll, even the bought and paid for Tory mouthpiece Yougov put them 2 points up) and the manifesto launch was an absolute disaster. From taking bets on how big a Tory landslide it'll be a few weeks back, bookies are now slashing odds on a Labour victory. This has been a prime example of how not to run an election campaign, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
On 19 May 2017 at 12:16pm Newms wrote:
My guess is that Labour voters are so convinced Corbyn won`t win that they are trying to keep the Labour Party alive in some form, who knows .They are still miles behind and certainly cannot win here
I think its even worse , Corbyn and his Marxist enryists will argue they are no worse than Ed Milliband and they have moved the country left
This will mean more long years of Conservative rule
On 19 May 2017 at 12:59pm OMFG wrote:
So we're voting on people rather than policies now, I seriously think there should be a test at 18 before the vote is given to a person.
On 19 May 2017 at 1:41pm Norman Supporter wrote:
I always voted for Norman Baker, as he was a long-time resident and knew the area and its issues from his local government time. I stayed with him despite the coalition.
But listening to the replacement candidate last night made me realise how fortunate we were to have him, and that I wouldn't vote for the new imported woman who seems to care only about getting herself on the gravy train. A lightweight of the highest order, which I didn't always think I'd find myself saying about a LibDem when first encountering MC. So conservative it is for me now.
On 19 May 2017 at 3:11pm Liberal voter wrote:
I have come to realise that my party are now promising all sorts of thing that are never going to happen specially now that they have declared they will not form a pact with the winning party. I am not a socialist so will not vote Labour. I hate to say it but Maria Caulfield seems to have been a good MP for the last two years and so I will be voting for her to carry on.
On 19 May 2017 at 3:32pm Nothing to see here.... wrote:
Not terribly convincing.......
On 19 May 2017 at 8:44pm Red Ken wrote:
If Ms Caulfield appears to be the best choice then it doesn't say much for the others. As for supposedly being a good mp for the past 2 years, well that's a laugh. She's done f*$# all except ride the gravy train.
On 20 May 2017 at 10:54am We'vehadourfun wrote:
Interesting article on newsnight about bots or fake political posts coming from hq. Many of these posts fit that model perfectly. Many new names all of a sudden which is usually left to the comedians. guess it all fake now isn't it.
On 20 May 2017 at 11:08am Cynic wrote:
Yes. It's all fake. That isn't Maria Caulfield sitting in the House Of Commons. It's a mannequin, and even after 2 years no one has noticed the difference.
On 20 May 2017 at 10:48pm Petrole wrote:
I'm a green and was thinking about LIBDEM but I agree she was terrible. Will prob vote Labour but cannot believe there isn't a better LIBDEM to stand in a winnable seat.
On 21 May 2017 at 1:10am Peasant wrote:
Lewes Liberal Democrats must surely have had a good choice of candidates for a winnable seat? How come they picked Kelly-Marie?
On 21 May 2017 at 11:42am Newms wrote:
How sad are these UKIP trolls , in their mental world this is clever
" I am a maybe Libdem Vote but I think their candidate is poor, so now I will vote ..for anyone else "
Are they mentally impaired in some way ?
Cue further witless crud..
On 21 May 2017 at 7:30pm Peasant wrote:
Wrong again Paul. Former Liberal Democrat voter here; never voted Tory or UKIP, or even considered voting Tory or UKIP. But may well vote for Maria Caulfield this time. I don't think she is any more a Tory than Kelly-Marie Blundell is a Liberal. Both of them seem to disagree with their respective party lines on more issues than they agree with them.